New Kawasaki J300

[DougL]

learn to brake properly and read the road ffs

We're all human and make errors. I ride about 10,000 miles plus a year on a scooter and had the ABS come on twice in the past year. I made a couple of errors. ABS prevented an incident and probably more than paid for itself. I'm happy for you that you are such a competent rider that you never make mistakes.

[MrGrumpy]

learn to brake properly and read the road ffs

We're all human and make errors. I ride about 10,000 miles plus a year on a scooter and had the ABS come on twice in the past year. I made a couple of errors. ABS prevented an incident and probably more than paid for itself. I'm happy for you that you are such a competent rider that you never make mistakes.

...And the completely unexpected does happen...when you least expect it.

[Data]

Yes agreed Grumpy about that. It's for the totally unexpected, unforeseen that happens when you need abs. It happened to me in 2012 on the abs Burgman and I'm confident abs saved me from very serious injury or worse. It also probably saved others around me on that road from injury too. In 43 years of riding, 12 of those years as a bike instructor (part time), I felt I never needed abs. I learned to ride, brake and read the road properly. But I'd seriously never have another bike now if it didn't have abs. It was just so effective when I had my near death experience! It keep me upright, steering and stopping all at once. You have to experience it to believe it. As has been indicated in previous posts, all bikes over 125 will have it by law in 2016 but the abs bikes will be rolling out much sooner than that to be ready. I'm not sure but I thought I read a document saying all 125 and above bikes sold from the beginning of next year must have abs fitted. But, I may be dreaming on that one.

[gn2]

learn to brake properly and read the road ffs

We're all human and make errors. I ride about 10,000 miles plus a year on a scooter and had the ABS come on twice in the past year. I made a couple of errors. ABS prevented an incident and probably more than paid for itself. I'm happy for you that you are such a competent rider that you never make mistakes.

Or suffer the consequence of anyone else's mistakes.

[andyscooter]

most of us on here rode before abs on bikes was about much


we managed then without it

more and more are relying on tech to keep them alive rather then there own wits

its also why i think car drivers are getting worse as the car is doing more and more and they are not concerntrating as much

its a bit of a bug bear of mine

i will go and sit in the corner now and calm down

[gn2]

most of us on here rode before abs on bikes was about much

we managed then without it

We also managed fine without GPS, liquid cooling (mostly) mobile phones, body armour, scratch resistant visors, trip computers, the internet, teflon frying pans, microwave ovens etc etc....

The bike I sat my test on had drum brakes front and rear, I would have jumped at the chance of ABS and discs back then.

Your way of looking at it seems weird to me.
IMO people don't rely on ABS, its just there in the background.
I doubt many people even think about it other than to check the indicator light comes on and goes out as it should at start up.
I've ridden three and a half thousand miles since September on my Forza, a lot of it in some pretty slippy conditions and the ABS hasn't kicked in once....... because I don't rely on it

[irev]

most of us on here rode before abs on bikes was about much


we managed then without it

more and more are relying on tech to keep them alive rather then there own wits

its also why i think car drivers are getting worse as the car is doing more and more and they are not concerntrating as much

its a bit of a bug bear of mine

i will go and sit in the corner now and calm down

Has it occurred to you that those who didn't have it, an needed it, are NOT here for that very reason...

There's no room for Luddites in safety.

Anywho it's a moot point as all new builds are gong to have it whether you like it or not.

Now apply that same reasoning to the UK importers decision and theres a law suit waiting, right there.

[melpotter]

More than just a re-badge but the guts are all Kymco.
Has it actually made it into showrooms here yet?

They'd got one in the showroom at DK motorcycles in Newcastle under Lyme and a Kymco Downtown when I was in there yesterday.

[poldark]

Lloyd Cooper in Watford will have a demo unit from end of next week.

[mjf65]

Thread back on track I see, I never even mentioned ABS