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Re: More troubles

Post by Scootypuff snr » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:28 pm

Options are
PX and don't be honest I'm sure most people wouldn't think twice about the deceit. (& a grands a grand)

Piaggio/Bev forum or eBay as a spare repair project expect £350/500!

Advertise for a swap engine (I don't know any personally but have heard folk mention it though mainly cars)

Offer it to a local college engineering course (see if they'll return the scoot after strip & rebuilding you pay for parts?)

Any geniuses on here willing to help (Lyn springs to mind and is a good egg having helped folk on other forums as well as here) sorry Lyn not offering your services for free but I know your generous nature from the past.
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Re: More troubles

Post by MrGrumpy » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:53 pm

Yes...worth considering. The other option is that even though a repair would be hideously expensive, it is likely to be somewhat less than buying a replacement scoot! There again, I've already been on biketrader, and someone not too far away has a Kawa J300 for £3k.....

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Re: More troubles

Post by 2wheelover51 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:08 pm

If you can find where the leak is without an engine strip, using something like JB Weld or putty would do it providing it was dried and cleaned back to good metal.
I've seen pictures of engine crankcases etc. repaired with the stuff and from my experience of it if the repair was done as described it would be permanent. Not exactly an elegant engineering solution but it could help you get a few more years out of the scooter at very little expense. Just a thought.

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Re: More troubles

Post by jamie » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:23 am

got told the same thing on mine so i stripped it my self just to satisfy my own curiosity
any way a £8.00 base gasket later job done
but its a biggish job and wouldnt liked to have paid an hourly rate for it

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Re: More troubles

Post by MrGrumpy » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:57 am

jamie wrote:
but its a biggish job and wouldnt liked to have paid an hourly rate for it
That's the snag - I think a cylinder barrel assembly is 'only' £100, but it requires stripping the entire engine which must take some time....

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Re: More troubles

Post by andyscooter » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:57 pm

trade it in

dealer has to deal with the problem


fuck em they would do it to you
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Re: More troubles

Post by MrGrumpy » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:12 pm

I'm too honest for that! I guess it underlines the thought that every secondhand bike / car / scoot is for sale for a reason...
I'm trying to get a price for a repair to see.........even an outrageous repair price might be cheaper than buying a new one. I'm away 'darn sarf' this week, so I'll make a decision when I get back.

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Re: More troubles

Post by horobags » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:15 pm

cheap repair then part-ex??? clear conscience. ;)
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Re: More troubles

Post by Jaz » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:29 pm

andyscooter wrote:fuck em they would do it to you
While I can see the attraction of this plan, can you not see that you're not doing 'it' to the dealer? They will simply sell it on to the next poor mug to walk into the showroom.

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Re: More troubles

Post by Globs » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:17 am

I'd see if I could find the actual leak first TBH.

If it's streaming out of the lower cylinder gasket you should be able to see it (at least when warm and under pressure, perhaps you'll just need to loosen the cylinder bolts and pop some gasket cardboard and instant gasket into the actual leak zone, tighten it all back down again and the problem is solved.
You may even find a good clean of the _actual leak point_ and a bit of instant gasket + gasket card may do it anyway, there's not a huge amount of pressure in the cooling system.

The workshop manual is free online for the X10 350 with the same engine.

I did a similar thing to replace a pushrod cover on a VW aircooled engine once, just loosened the cylinder away, popped in the new cover and tightened it back up again: much easier than taking it off.


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