Do you think newer riders are missing out?

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by riders in the storm » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:29 am

I've got the 300 Scoot & the NC750 at the moment but none of the bikes I've had recently will ever be as much fun or give me as much pride as the 100cc Suzuki scrambler I had in a field behind my dad's house when I was 14.......!!

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by roadster » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:15 am

From the age of sixteen I have enjoyed on average at least one different bike for every year and I can honestly say that I never regretted or disliked a single one of them. From the two speed moped that I hacked apart and rode around my grandfather's orchards to the various machines that were capable of 150 mph, or the very occasional win at a local race track, each one a learning experience. I still get a buzz out of getting hold of something new or different and I don't see any reason why that philosophy is not still available to new riders if that is what they choose. Realistically it might be very different in two or three decades time so we should count our blessings that we lived in the era of the internal combustion engine and the freedom to ride where and when we chose.
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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Data » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:56 am

Yes good arguements and points made from everyone.

Going back to my main point, I'm asking do you think newer riders are missing out by not trying the huge range of smaller machines. Because it seems to me after talking to numerous newer riders, although some of them have been riding for 10 years or so, they have never ridden a bike smaller than a 500cc machine since their rider training. They then go straight on to 1000cc bikes or bigger. They simply have no notion of how smaller machines can stir the blood, how they go or how they handle. My bro in law is one of them. It seems they have this idea that motorcycling is all about POWER! Some of them use a 1200cc bike to ride 3 miles to work and back each day and think that they have reached the pinnacle of riding! They seems amazed I rode my GTS300 420 miles in one day to the NEC. They simply couldn't even contemplate riding their great big bikes more than 50 miles at a time. I actually wonder if that would change if they had a smaller, often more fun bike.

Most of us that turned up at the NEC on the day I went on the Vespa had ridden several hundred miles on bikes generally that were 500cc or less. Very few big machines there and quite a few 200cc and 300cc bikes, mine included.

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Meldrew » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:44 am

Don't most of the punters at the NEC Show drive there as part of a car load, go by train to Birmingham International, or on one of those weekend organised coach trips advertised in your local paper. I've been twice by train since moving to York and it's just easy and convenient.

Both times I've noticed blokes on the same train who were obviously going to the show too. For instead of wearing normal clothes, they were dressed up like MotoGP and WSB Team Managers in Honda polo shirts and fleeces covered in big bright embroidered logos.

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Data » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:17 pm

No Meldrew, you're not a real man if you don't go by bike!! :lol:

I've been to the NEC by car with several mates too. It can be very convenient. But it's equally easy by bike and free high security parking under cover too. Clearly most do go by car.

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by bikerdezzie » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:06 am

The amount of scooter thieves about already know the benefits of a good ped, i educated many a sportbiker on my tmax and after the last 6 years on 125 monkey size bikes i am all about the fun and many yoofs have enjoyed the grom and new monkeys as i run the groups and yes, some move on to bigger things but some come back as thry miss the fun, many older folks buying them and ditching big bikes in the process who get that wake up call its not all about speed, just have to look at trends now many chinese made mid range bikes are selling well, Royal Enfields flying out the doors etc as pricing from the big 4 jap makes are getting silly now and chinese have upped their game somewhat, maxiscoots still the anomoly they have always been and will never sell loads in the UK but the change in quality affordable bikes looks promising at the lower to mid range bikes can only be positive.
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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by bn1966 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:16 pm

Had a conversation just this afternoon with a big CC riding younger rider regarding the fun to be had with a smaller capacity / framed bike / scooter (I:E my Vespa GTV)..he's seriously thinking about it..

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Data » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:21 am

A ride on one normally convinces most people! I've been responsible for our local dealer selling at least two GTS bikes in the last year because I let them have a quick go on mine. This resulted in the guys gong for a proper test ride at the dealer and buying. They go differently to how motorcyclist imagine them to ride.

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Meldrew » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:02 pm

There was about three dozen Trad type scooters on last night's P&O ferry crossing from Zeebrugge to Hull. Their owners had been attending an invitation only scooter meet about 30 miles from the ferry terminal. I'd say none of the riders were just passed their test or newer riders, they were all middle aged and above.

The scooters ranged from vintage Lambretta's and Vespa's including a few incredibly smokey and noisy 2-strokes, right up to modern Vespa's you see in the showrooms now. I didn't notice one rider on a Vespa GTS 300 complete with a folding front carrier, but even my novice eyes could see there'd been some expensive mods on the larger Vespa's.

I've no interest in this style of scooter whatsoever, but I have to admit these Trad scooter clubs get about.

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Re: Do you think newer riders are missing out?

Post by Has been maxi tours » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Few I know from Dudley went to Belgium rally .Scooter club of Liege put it on I think but was on the coast .

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