Me too. Would come but on the X9 run with a load of old farts.Dave Weller wrote:Sorry I can't go Steve, and now for a plug for the X9 West ride, details on their site.
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Oh dear, you're so dead.mottza wrote:Me too. Would come but on the X9 run with a load of old farts.Dave Weller wrote:Sorry I can't go Steve, and now for a plug for the X9 West ride, details on their site.
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Looking good, hope to see a few of you there on Sunday.
Just to reiterate;-
We will be using the "cornerman system" so please make sure you are familiar with this method of route marking.
Will be a mixture of bike types not just scoots
There will be other riders with us on this ride as i am a member of a couple of other groups. They are the Honda C90 group and the LMRC so you can expect some of those members to be with us.
Will be a right royal mix of bikes machines !!
The Corner man, or Drop off system is as follows;-
THE DROP OFF SYSTEM
. Understanding the system is important, as every rider needs to do their part.
Used properly it is a proven way of riding in a large group and preventing riders from getting lost.
One rider, the run leader, will stay at the front and is responsible for navigating the route. Another rider, tail end Charlie (TEC) will stay at the back in last position.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW/CAN IDENTIFY THE TAIL END CHARLIE AND LEADER BEFORE THE RIDE COMMENCES! Note their bikes and clothing.
These are the only two riders who maintain their position in the group.
AT ANY JUNCTION WHERE THE ROUTE DOES NOT OBVIOUSLY GO STRAIGHT AHEAD, The leader will usually point where he requires a junction to be marked.
The rider immediately behind the leader MUST MUST MUST stop and mark the junction and indicate clearly the route to follow by pointing with an outstretched arm.
It is the riders responsibility to stop and mark the junction in a visible position WHICH THEY ARE CERTAIN IS A SAFE PLACE FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHER ROAD USERS!
Markers should be clearly visible to approaching riders.
THEY MUST MAINTAIN THAT POSITION UNTIL THE TEC ARRIVES, EVEN IF IT TAKES 30 MINUTES! Do NOT desert your post!
All other riders pass the marker except the TEC. The TEC will wave the marker back into the ride in front of him if safe to do so.
IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY STOPPING AND MARKING JUNCTIONS, DO NOT TAKE THE POSITION IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE LEADER!
Slow up and wave someone past you who is happy to become next marker.
HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE INDICATED TO MARK A TURNING OR JUNCTION, YOU MUST DO SO!
If at any time you need to pull out of the rideout, pull over in a safe position and indicate to the (TEC) as they approach, tell him/her you are leaving the group, they will then inform the run leader at the soonest oppotunity.
Summary:
KNOW YOUR TAIL END CHARLIE. KNOW YOUR RIDE LEADER!
IF LEADER INDICATES YOU TO MARK A JUCTION, DO SO! SAFELY, AND VISIBLY!
DO NOT LEAVE YOUR POSITION UNTIL THE TAIL END CHARLIE REACHES YOU!
RE-JOIN THE RIDE IN FRONT OF THE TAIL END CHARLIE.
Other:
NEVER undertake!
Respect the rider in fronts lane space, pass wide and NOT IN THEIR LANE.
You are a representative of all the riders in your company. Respect them. DO NOT RIDE LIKE A KNOB!
Keep a respectful profile in public, save revving, burnouts, wheelies, etc for the remote stops we make where the public will not be intimidated or irritated!
People love to see us out and about en-masse. Let's keep it that way!
Just to reiterate;-
We will be using the "cornerman system" so please make sure you are familiar with this method of route marking.
Will be a mixture of bike types not just scoots
There will be other riders with us on this ride as i am a member of a couple of other groups. They are the Honda C90 group and the LMRC so you can expect some of those members to be with us.
Will be a right royal mix of bikes machines !!
The Corner man, or Drop off system is as follows;-
THE DROP OFF SYSTEM
. Understanding the system is important, as every rider needs to do their part.
Used properly it is a proven way of riding in a large group and preventing riders from getting lost.
One rider, the run leader, will stay at the front and is responsible for navigating the route. Another rider, tail end Charlie (TEC) will stay at the back in last position.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW/CAN IDENTIFY THE TAIL END CHARLIE AND LEADER BEFORE THE RIDE COMMENCES! Note their bikes and clothing.
These are the only two riders who maintain their position in the group.
AT ANY JUNCTION WHERE THE ROUTE DOES NOT OBVIOUSLY GO STRAIGHT AHEAD, The leader will usually point where he requires a junction to be marked.
The rider immediately behind the leader MUST MUST MUST stop and mark the junction and indicate clearly the route to follow by pointing with an outstretched arm.
It is the riders responsibility to stop and mark the junction in a visible position WHICH THEY ARE CERTAIN IS A SAFE PLACE FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHER ROAD USERS!
Markers should be clearly visible to approaching riders.
THEY MUST MAINTAIN THAT POSITION UNTIL THE TEC ARRIVES, EVEN IF IT TAKES 30 MINUTES! Do NOT desert your post!
All other riders pass the marker except the TEC. The TEC will wave the marker back into the ride in front of him if safe to do so.
IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY STOPPING AND MARKING JUNCTIONS, DO NOT TAKE THE POSITION IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE LEADER!
Slow up and wave someone past you who is happy to become next marker.
HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE INDICATED TO MARK A TURNING OR JUNCTION, YOU MUST DO SO!
If at any time you need to pull out of the rideout, pull over in a safe position and indicate to the (TEC) as they approach, tell him/her you are leaving the group, they will then inform the run leader at the soonest oppotunity.
Summary:
KNOW YOUR TAIL END CHARLIE. KNOW YOUR RIDE LEADER!
IF LEADER INDICATES YOU TO MARK A JUCTION, DO SO! SAFELY, AND VISIBLY!
DO NOT LEAVE YOUR POSITION UNTIL THE TAIL END CHARLIE REACHES YOU!
RE-JOIN THE RIDE IN FRONT OF THE TAIL END CHARLIE.
Other:
NEVER undertake!
Respect the rider in fronts lane space, pass wide and NOT IN THEIR LANE.
You are a representative of all the riders in your company. Respect them. DO NOT RIDE LIKE A KNOB!
Keep a respectful profile in public, save revving, burnouts, wheelies, etc for the remote stops we make where the public will not be intimidated or irritated!
People love to see us out and about en-masse. Let's keep it that way!
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Group riding, safety and enjoyment has come a long way. Thanks Steve for posting that.
An important point is, if the ride is not for you, or you feel uncomfortable with it for any reason, leave it.
Never exceed your ability, ride safe, and enjoy.
An important point is, if the ride is not for you, or you feel uncomfortable with it for any reason, leave it.
Never exceed your ability, ride safe, and enjoy.
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
there is already a post for safe group riding http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... ?f=8&t=671 
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Wasn't aware of the link FC thanks for that.
Yup Mr M was indeed cut/paste. From a very successful motorcycle group that welcomes all bikes from my humble 85cc Cub up to things like 2300cc Trumpet Rockets.
Using the method outlines above we have had rides with an extremely eclectic groups with a mix of bikes as mentioned above. It just "works" so i would like to use it on my Kent Lanes.
If it doesn't suit, your privilege is to give it a miss.
Looking forward to meeting you guys in Sunday
Don't be late..............................pretty please
Yup Mr M was indeed cut/paste. From a very successful motorcycle group that welcomes all bikes from my humble 85cc Cub up to things like 2300cc Trumpet Rockets.
Using the method outlines above we have had rides with an extremely eclectic groups with a mix of bikes as mentioned above. It just "works" so i would like to use it on my Kent Lanes.
If it doesn't suit, your privilege is to give it a miss.
Looking forward to meeting you guys in Sunday
Don't be late..............................pretty please
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Dave Weller wrote:Oh dear, you're so dead.mottza wrote:Me too. Would come but on the X9 run with a load of old farts.Dave Weller wrote:Sorry I can't go Steve, and now for a plug for the X9 West ride, details on their site.
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
If I can make it,will meet you ,and others at Sainsbury,s Faversham..Wat time you approx., getting there.??
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
Dunno, reckon we will be on the Medway area in about 1 hour and travelling down the Lower Rainham Road. So waiting in the Three Mariners (ME8 7TN) car park would be a good plan.
Obviously it wont be possible to be exact on the time prediction but we will most definitely be passing there.
Obviously it wont be possible to be exact on the time prediction but we will most definitely be passing there.
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Re: Kent's best lanes to Whitstable July 3rd
The weather is looking favorable for both Saturday and Sunday so I may try my route on Saturday... hopefully without getting lost this time... and Sunday tag along with you guys 
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