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[gn2]

I agree.
I have only ever ridden one auto box bike, an NC700X DCT and its not an experience I would care to repeat.
But as far as scooters are concerned the CVT is just perfect.

[DougL]

I agree.
I have only ever ridden one auto box bike, an NC700X DCT and its not an experience I would care to repeat.
But as far as scooters are concerned the CVT is just perfect.

Friend of mine has just bought an NC700S dct and loves it - what did you dislike? Scootering didn't like the Integra or at least that was my understanding.

[charles1976]

There's no right or wrong here its all personal preference, variety is the spice of life!

[gn2]

what did you dislike?

As far as the gearbox operation is concerned I didn't like the jerky gearchanges, I couldn't find a way to prevent it banging down through all the gears when pulling up to a stop.
OK you can choose when to change gears up or down, but for me that is easier achieved (and smoother) by proper clutch and gear levers rather than a set of buttons.
Then there's the complexity of the thing, I wouldn't want to own one out of warranty in case it went tits up, although it could yet prove to be a very reliable system.

[MrGrumpy]

I can not understand some people making out its a big thing riding a motorbike with gears ,its not complicated at all ,
when riding a geared bike its an
automatic reflex changing gear,,

Well - as I've been driving a manual car for over 30 years, yes, changing gear on that is a reflex action I don't think about. However, there was a learning curve for this to happen on a car, and even more so on a bike. I passed my bike test on a manual bike 10 years ago, but I've rarely ridden a manual since. When I do, its a big deal and something I have to think very carefully about! So certainly not a reflex action. Obviously riding one a lot would certainly make it more of a reflex action, but its not instant.
However, when I had the Burger with its semi-auto transmission, I found I couldn't be arsed to even bother with that, and just stuck it in auto 99.9999% of the time!

[DougL]

I have zero problems changing gear on a motorbike, though I did take a fully auto test. (Ridden lots of sub 125 geared since then on L plates and bigger bikes on a private road including a Ducati Diavel) What I hate most about them is having the rear brake under my right foot, it's much better at the left hand lever.

[MrGrumpy]

what did you dislike?

As far as the gearbox operation is concerned I didn't like the jerky gearchanges, I couldn't find a way to prevent it banging down through all the gears when pulling up to a stop.

Thats interesting....I've never heard anyone else finding that an issue. Were the jerks severe, or merely irritating as a lack of smoothness?

[ridinhigh]

I have zero problems changing gear on a motorbike, though I did take a fully auto test. (Ridden lots of sub 125 geared since then on L plates and bigger bikes on a private road including a Ducati Diavel) What I hate most about them is having the rear brake under my right foot, it's much better at the left hand lever.

Rear brake lever was on the right foot,when i started riding gears on left,

thats onlyb time i was caught out when i first rode a jap bike with gears on left and brake on right,,
and no i would like rear brake on left hand lever,.that were i expect to find the clutch,

[gn2]

Were the jerks severe, or merely irritating as a lack of smoothness?

I found the downshifts to be irritating, they were noticeably jerky and nowhere near as smooth as I would have liked.
The DCT robs you of control, you don't know when the gearchanges are coming and the computer doesn't do the changes when you would want them.

[MrGrumpy]

Were the jerks severe, or merely irritating as a lack of smoothness?

I found the downshifts to be irritating, they were noticeably jerky and nowhere near as smooth as I would have liked.
The DCT robs you of control, you don't know when the gearchanges are coming and the computer doesn't do the changes when you would want them.

I did read a mag. article saying something along those lines eg it would change down in the middle of a bend! I guess the bike mags probably use it in semi-auto mode most of the time anyway.
There again....my manual downshifts were never noted for precision or smoothness, so I might not notice the difference!!!!!