Honda seem to have kept this very quiet, but according to this press release....

https://hondanews.eu/eu/en/motorcycles/ ... da-integra

...the Integra has been updated for 2018, and now even takes a full face helmet under the seat!!!!!
Unlike X-ADV comes on 17" wheels front & back. Also has the selectable torque control thingy that the X-ADV has gained, whatever that is.

Why don't they put an external temperature gauge on these!

charles1976 wrote:Why don't they put an external temperature gauge on these!

Well...its hardly mission critical is it....is it???

Skimping!

Suzuki
My Burgman has ambient temp display

Silverwings Don't seem to, at least not on the ones I've played with.

My 2014 X Max 250 has temp.display. I like the Welcome On Board message when starting up.
The one display I did not like seeing is the Ice warning. Not a good confidence booster going into bend. However since retiring it's a warning I've not seen for a couple of winters.

Meldrew wrote:

charles1976 wrote:Skimping!

So who aren't skimping and already fit external temperature gauges or a external temperature display as OE?

Almost everyone these days actually. I guess most FI engines have an external temp sensor for the computer, so putting it on a display is an easy win. The mk1 Tmax doesn't, but all mk2 onwards have one. Even my Aprilia Atlantic did, although it only displayed the temp in Fahrenheit not Centigrade.

Well my Mk. 3 TMax doesn't seem to have an ambient temperature gauge, but then I've never wanted or needed one.
One of the advantages of motorcycles and scooters for me has always been the fact that you can tell whither it's hot or cold, raining, windy etc. almost as soon as you swing your leg over!

2wheelover51 wrote:Well my Mk. 3 TMax doesn't seem to have an ambient temperature gauge, but then I've never wanted or needed one.
One of the advantages of motorcycles and scooters for me has always been the fact that you can tell whither it's hot or cold, raining, windy etc. almost as soon as you swing your leg over!

Obviously my memory's failing - I could have sworn the mk2 and mk3 had an ambient temp gauge! I remember when the gauge on my Atlantic saying it was 22F, and I was thinking, that is COLD!

The X-ADV thingy has one also. The heated grips show on the screen also what setting you are on the spot lamps also show on off on the dash.