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Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:25 pm
by DTO
Data wrote:As said the exhaust does not have to come off. But the filter is still a little awkward to get at so get a filter removal tool. Chain or strap type is best. Again Halfords do a nice chain type for £4.95 that will fit the small size of the GTS.I did mine without the tool but wished I had used one as it's quicker and easier.
24mm shallow socket ( about £6 on eBay )
There’s also a special tool for the slotted filter .

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:16 am
by smeghead
DTO wrote:
Data wrote:As said the exhaust does not have to come off. But the filter is still a little awkward to get at so get a filter removal tool. Chain or strap type is best. Again Halfords do a nice chain type for £4.95 that will fit the small size of the GTS.I did mine without the tool but wished I had used one as it's quicker and easier.
24mm shallow socket ( about £6 on eBay )
There’s also a special tool for the slotted filter .
Thanks for the info!

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:25 am
by Data
DTO that's a nice looking filter tool. I hadn't seen that. Is it an exact fit on the very small Vespa oem filter?

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:38 pm
by DTO
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Vespa-GT ... SwPhdU2MAX

Yes made for the standard filter with slot on end . I’m going to order for £13.50 will take the hassle out of changing filter :)

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 8:18 am
by SH125Paul
You make something similar by filing / fitting a bit of shim steel or some such across a six wall socket...
Mate had made me one when I had the old Gilly Runner...
But Nothing like the proper tool for the job though... strap wrench or chain wrench or failing that the old screwdriver hammered through the filter and oil all over the garage floor!
Pattern part HiFlo I think just had a hex on the end for a socket...

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:44 pm
by smeghead
I did the job today. Oil from halfrauds and oem filter from local m/c shop. It took longer than anticipated. First issue was the drain plug was too tight to undo by hand, needed my electric impact wrench, off it came. Second issue, I bought a chain wrench, it didn't fit too well between the filter and engine case, I marked the case getting it off, not too bothered it's out of view. Apart from spilling some oil on the drive got it done in the end. I learnt you really need the correct tool for the job, I'll invest in the correct oil remover tool ready for next time although it would be nice if they just put a simple hex head on the end.

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:45 am
by Data
Smeg, sorry if you had issues with the chain removal tool. Which one did you get. There's quite a small one that Halfords sell and that worked ok for me. So I'm feeling kinda responsible... I did advise you to get one. But very glad you did the job. I don't know why workshops do the drain plug up so tight either. It doesn't need to be anymore than around 22-25nm. Col Kawasaki did my drain plug up so tight I had to order a new one because even the proper size socket wrecked it, and that was a proper 6 sided pro jobbie. It is made of alloy and doesn't need more than a tweak. There's no way it would have seized itself into place either. I replaced mine and used 22nm of torque. It's just a gently nip up.

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:50 am
by DTO
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Got tool on Saturday , Well made and heavy . Fits the piaggio, Malossi , hiflo or any with the grooved top . 24mm spanner or 1/2” drive bar .

£13.50 on eBay.

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:05 am
by smeghead
Data wrote:Smeg, sorry if you had issues with the chain removal tool. Which one did you get. There's quite a small one that Halfords sell and that worked ok for me. So I'm feeling kinda responsible... I did advise you to get one. But very glad you did the job. I don't know why workshops do the drain plug up so tight. It doesn't need to be anymore than around 22-25nm. Col Kawasaki did my drain plug up so tight I had to order a new one because even the proper size socket wrecked it. It is made of alloy and doesn't need more than a tweak. There's no way it would have seized itself into place either. I replaced mine and used 22nm of torque. It's just a gently nip up.
When I was in our local Halfrauds I didn't see a chain one, I got one from Machine Mart for £5.99 it's a Clarke brand. Nicely made thing tbh. Don't worry about the recommendation Data, it's my fault for having limited knowledge and it was only £6!

Re: Quick Vespa oil change question

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:05 am
by smeghead
DTO wrote:8CEAA962-5059-45AA-905D-4FB6CCA43044.jpeg064D8F4E-8F7E-47F3-A004-429E36BF5045.jpeg

Got tool on Saturday , Well made and heavy . Fits the piaggio, Malossi , hiflo or any with the grooved top . 24mm spanner or 1/2” drive bar .

£13.50 on eBay.
This is on my Christmas list!