The Sinnis Terrain seems to crop up several times in topics.

This may be of interest if you are considering one.

https://ridingfromreality.minimountainm ... gB7uF7owGA

good review, got to be the best 125 out there atm, (apart from the c-125 ).

The new CB125F is looking like a good value, decent all round bike too.

Not as comprehensively equipped as the Sinnis, but only a couple of hundred quid more ... and a Honda.

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/ran ... tions.html

dont tempt me,,

Yep, that's the one the lad who sold me the C1 had, it looked like it had been in the sea for the two years it had been alive...

must admit Iv'e seen a few rusty ones.

The Hondas don't seem to resist rust very well. In my home town there are several shoddy ones going around. However, we mustn't overlook the fact they are often bought by beginners with little understanding or desire to look after a bike.