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[2wheelover51]

Hi all.
Since selling my TMax 500 a while back I've been a lurker on Maxi-muppets from time to time. My only 2 wheeler is my second CBF600SA8. Had it a little over a year now, but the desire for another scoot has resurfaced after I tore my right meniscus (knee cartilage). I realised the ease of riding would have meant I could have easily continued to ride without pain.
I'm now thinking of getting another scoot, but something with a bit more economy. I'm thinking a Burgman 400, maybe around 2012. I prefer the shape of the older models to the latest one which just looks like every other scooter out there. I've also looked at a Piaggio X10 500, which looks like a nice scoot, but wonder about the availability of parts compared to the Burgman, and the reliability of all that tech. All advice will be gratefully accepted!

[SH125Paul]

Depending on ya $£€¥ - If ya want a Maxi maybe the last of the Yam 400 Majestys, or early XMax400?
If ya likes a Skinny... bound to find an SH300 that fits ya budget... SH flat floor 'n easy step through, no tunnel...
Twist n Go - They Just Make Sense...
Im on a SH125 and NC750X DCT

[MrGrumpy]

Piaggio parts supply is immeasurably better than it used to be. When I had my Bev 350, I had no problem with parts at all.
The Kymco 350/400s are well worth considering if you have a dealer within reach.
As for all the tech. on modern scoots - well.....there's no way of knowing. Whilst it generally works most of the time, I've read reports on practically all makes of bike or scoot where owners have problems with some of the tech some of the time!

[2wheelover51]

Thanks for the replies.
Paul, I would have a Majesty 400 if I found a good low mileage model at the right price. Re: the SH300. I know they're good bikes but want the full scoot protection and extra storage space, re. the Xmax I can't really say I like the looks compared to the Burgman even though I know they're good scooters.
Mr G, I would also consider a Kymco or Sym (Downtown?) at the right mileage and condition. re: the X10 glad the parts situation has improved I know they were famous for long lead times for parts at one stage. I'm surprised there are no posts on the X10, as you do still see a few around.

[wightegi]

How about an MP3 if you have problems with a bit of mobility , no rush to put your leg down when you come to a stop, and easy to push around.

[SH125Paul]

Sounds like a 400 Burger then... been about long enough... and for a reason... looks are subjective, its how they do whats asked of them... tool for the job?

[2wheelover51]

Thanks for the replies.
Wightegi, I generally don't have mobility problems, I'm hoping this is temporary! Nothing against a 3 wheeler, but I still prefer 2 wheels (as my username suggests)
Paul, I think I prefer the 400 Burger. Parts will be more plentiful and lots of info. on the 'net. Are there any issues with the earlier Burgers? I prefer the looks over the X10 and the simplicity (lack of electronics) along with the great mpg.

[MrGrumpy]

The very very early Burgers had some issues, but they are 22 years old now. They were steadily improved over the years. The ones with the 397cc engine and twin front disk brakes (2008 on??) are probably better than the ones before.

[2wheelover51]

Thanks Mr G.
It would be one of the twin disc models I will be getting. I'm looking at one in Marriots in Birkenhead which looks quite nice and is reasonably priced. Once the lockdown ends I might take a run up there for a test ride if it's still there, and maybe chop in the CBF. There seem to be lots for sale "up country" but very few down here in Dorset.

[SH125Paul]

Not had a Burger... Worth a re-shout post 'Calling Burger 400 owners past and present' also a Burger section viewforum.php?f=49
Only thing i remember on the forum was steel belts n that was 600...
Mentioning Belts, always go OE or Bando for Honda, Mitsubishi for Yam.. not sure who OE is for Suzi...
It just aint worth the faff about fitting belts and uding a cheapy...
been about long enough and as you say spares easy enough...
i use fowlers parts for the diagrams n parts listings, makes things easy... can always try the part number on the 'Bay but fowlers are great...
also handy pics for a spot of DIY ala Plastic tabs n screws position to get the bidywork off, belt change or caliper of brake pad change, air n oil filter change, if no service handbook ot haynes manual available