A couple of new Honda N700s

[Bluebottle]

But your still called Mel, right?

(And wasn't it "Malc" on his helmet?)

[MrGrumpy]

As usuall the glass is half full or half empty, but still Honda remain half-arsed

The the tall screen is non-adjustable and it's got the poxiest 3.17 gallon tank (US or 12 litres, or 2.64 proper gallons) so they've pissed the `lightweight tourer` right up the wall, just as they've done with the Integra. Even at 80-per, you ain't going to go more than 150 miles before hunting down a petrol station.

I really am struggling to see what this is all about. But it is supposed to be the first call on a long road of different engined models from the same concept, so here's hoping Honda can remember what makes a decent tourer and fix it, then understand the benefit of a decent volume of onboard storage. mounted low, between the wheels.

A built-in storage area the size of todays Maxi underseat storage over the top of the laid-down engine and a 4.5 gallon tank with adjustable screen, add some leg protection and then we're talking...

...about a maxi-scooter designed right.

Duh??? What are Honda on? The whole thing about the N700S/X was that, together with the DCT transmission, the helmet sized storage trunk meant that by bike standards at least, it made sense. And they go and throw it away for some inexplicable reason! And have a smaller tank as well! A double whammy! However, the small tank isn't utterly disastrous - now same range as Tmax, but why do it???? I guess that having a low seat height is seen as essential

It seems that Harleys are having a very malign influence over bike design these days - unnecessarily low seats and engine that are designed to vibrate on purpose!! I'll stick to a TMax!!