Next generation ABS

[StephenC]

Bosch have just launched a form of ABS that helps when cornering* and also includes a stability control function. It's going to come out on a KTM. I know Piaggio already have traction & ABS on the X10 and Bev, but this looks like to be on another level.

Visordown have an article on it. A good few of the comments on it are predictable. http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-new ... 23598.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;





* If you're braking hard enough to trigger the ABS when you're leaning over taking a corner, in my book you're already heading for the floor.....

[Bluebottle]

As the great Ian Dury once said "there ain't half been some clever bastards"

I do worry about all this stuff interfering with my brakes. While it works perfectly most of the time, it can be fooled when new and once it is old will it still be reliable?
Some guy in an Audi has already supposed to have had his brakes do a full emergency stop for no reason, luckily he was doing 20mph and not 70 on a packed motorway.
I like my ABS but I also like things simple

[Ferrit]

It is a problem when people rely on the safety gadgets and not on learning the proper skills. Given the choice I beleive £500 spent on proper riding training is much more valuable than £500 on ABS. Saying that, give me £1,000 and I would have both. But I live in the real world, no bastard will give me all the money I want.

[SpikeOne]

Don't know about bikes. Never had ABS of any kind.
Buuuut...I do know that, on those few occasions where it's kicked in in the car, I've been completely oblivious to it happening, until it has already done so.
In other words, had I been on the bike in those self same conditions, I probably would have had an off of some description.

I've never been specifically against ABS on bikes, but I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that there is no downside to it, other than cost. And that will come down as and when it becomes compulsory anyway.

[StephenC]

I've had ABS on my last 5 scooters - all Pugs, because they offered ABS - since 2002. I reckon I have had it kick in maybe 5 or 6 times in all. Not a lot you might say, for the extra money (about £500 on the price of each scooter) but there are a few pedestrians, at least one deer and myself who all escaped injury and maybe worse, as a result.

Like my sig says, No ABS means No sale. Which means I may not be getting a Peugeot next time if they don't include ABS on the forthcoming Satelis 400.

(My other bit of sig refers to just because you CAN do something, it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it...)

[Bluebottle]

Always liked your "Can ≠ Should".

Never had the ABS kick in on the Burger but on one occasion it gave me the confidence to brake harder than I thought I could get away with. My judgement was just plain wrong and without ABS I would have eased off too early for fear of losing it.

[terryvanman]

I totaly agree with having ABS...saved my skin more than once on my SH 300. and I've still only covered 1200 miles

[Data]

+ another one who has had his neck saved by ABS. The Burgman is the only bike I've ever had it on in 40 years and it kicked in just at the right time and kept me out of the morgue. Phew...I can tell you I won't buy another bike without it. That's even though I've never needed it to my knowledge in all my riding years until that occasion.

[michaelphillips]

abs yes, but traction control..... no way.. my car has abs .. traction control and anti skid... i have to turn the traction skid control off in winter snow weather or my dashboard acts like a christmas tree and setting off from stationary in ice or snow is quite funny really but i think dangerous if you are a not knowing person... so to speak... gadgets and gizmos will creep in over the coming years.. but as long as i can turn them off with a flick of a switch is as important as having them in my opinion

[gn2]

Once upon a time motorcyclists railed against the unecessary complexity of hydraulically operated disc brakes, the argument being that a bowden cable operated drum was far easier to maintain.
Which they are, but they just don't work as well.
ABS will become the norm and that is A Good Thing.
No ABS = no sale for me too these days.