new forza 125!

[gn2]

Ah yes, I've had a look at the Visordown page, seems like its a fair bit more than a rehashed PCX.
As with the PCX its a shame there's no 200cc option.

[Capt. R Swipe]

I like the looks too.

If it replaces the the great little S-wing then it needs to be good 'un. I replaced my S-wing reluctantly (!) for a Burg 400, for Devon to Kent trips once a month.

[horobags]

I like the look of it too, http://www.morebikes.co.uk/honda-forza- ... torcycles/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[gn2]

The blue and white looks a little too BMW-ish.

[Bluebottle]

Are they making it in Europe or Thailand?

[MrGrumpy]

Are they making it in Europe or Thailand?

Thats what I'd like to find out...there again, the Thai built PCX seems pretty well made, although the quality of the YB125 bike (or whatever its called) is apparently abysmal.

[Dave Weller]

The fuel pump built in to the crankcase, I hope it's not actually inside it. Combined starter and Generator brushless, and a radiator part the crankcase, all good stuff.

The engine is packed with Honda’s eSP low-friction technologies; and clever packaging of items like the fuel pump (which is built in to the crankcase) help to further ensure efficiency. A compact combustion chamber and PGM-FI fuel injection – fed by a redesigned 4.7-litre airbox and 28mm diameter inlet duct – optimise burning velocity and cooling performance. A new triple chamber exhaust muffler contains a 400-cell catalyser to clean up exhaust gases.
An offset cylinder reduces friction caused by contact between piston and bore, efficiently transmitting combustion energy to the crankshaft. A ‘spiny’ cast-iron sleeve – with tiny surface extensions – keeps in check any distortion of the inner bore diameter. This design lowers tension in the piston ring, reducing friction.
A compact high-efficiency radiator – integrated into the exterior of the right-side crankcase – employs a small, light fan reducing frictional losses and lowering drag. Rolling resistance within the transmission unit is reduced by the use of three low-friction main bearings, all designed to deal with the loads they individually receive. The drive pulley features a fin design that lowers air resistance and the follower pulley reduces pressure on the drive belt, cutting transmission losses.
The electronically controlled brushless ACG starter is an integrated component mounted directly on the end of the crankshaft, serving as starter motor and alternator. It spins the engine directly, eliminating any noise from gear engagement or meshing.
Idling Stop automatically stops the engine running after three seconds at idle when the scooter is stationary and the brakes applied, and re-starts it instantly the throttle grip is twisted. It’s seamless in use thanks to ACG and the swing-back system that returns the crank to its position before air intake, and a decompression mechanism that negates cranking resistance from compression. It has the functionality to ‘read’ the battery charge and turns itself off to avoid excessive drain. The battery is a long-life YTZ8V unit.
One of the aims of the development team working on the Forza 125 is that the trip to the fuel station should happen just once a week for the average user; achieved thanks to the engine’s fuel efficiency of approximately 123mpg (WMTC mode) and 11.5 litre tank.

[Bluebottle]

Looks like it isn't Thai.

Assembly in Italy
Nagura heading the development team


I don't follow the logic of using the Forza name for a bargain basement 300 but a top end 125

[gn2]

Name one 300 maxi which isn't "bargain basement"?

[Bluebottle]

Dennis