Introduce myself, it says. Happy New Year everyone. Looking to return to two wheels after 25 years. Now aged 60.
Living in central France but my office is near Cardiff. Go there for four days, every other week. Otherwise work from home. Almost three years of Ryanair and hire cars is expensive and is doing my head in. A weakened left hand points to a maxi scooter and the mileage involved suggests a Burgman 650. I make it 25,000 miles a year getting to and from home, with another 10,000 miles getting around the UK. Last week was Rochdale, next week it's Ipswich.
Question - would a second hand scooter be a false economy, in terms of reliability?
I have been staggered at the cost of helmets and clothing; goodness knows how young riders get started.
A concern - at 275kg, the Burgman is quite a bit heavier than my last bike, a Guzzi V1000 Convert. I appreciate that the Burgman has a low centre of gravity, but I also know that I don't have the strength I had 25 years ago.
Anyway, that's me. Happy to be here.
Returning to two wheels
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Hi Frenchie, Lyn ( male ) in North Wales.
I have had 5 650 Big Burgers and a cracking machine they are, BUT: doing those sort of miles wilcostalot:
I used to get 3 to 4000 from a rear tyre, the fuel consumption is not great at the sort of speeds you WILL
want to do to get to and from. Plus the service intervals are not the best. I think it would be about the most
comfortable and also have very good storage. have you looked at other machines yet? What about the Honda NC
range...scooter like is the Integra 750 any thing up to 90MPG but not a lot of storage room and a chain to oil.
On the other hand service intervals are 8000 miles.
Worth a look.
Lyn.
I have had 5 650 Big Burgers and a cracking machine they are, BUT: doing those sort of miles wilcostalot:
I used to get 3 to 4000 from a rear tyre, the fuel consumption is not great at the sort of speeds you WILL
want to do to get to and from. Plus the service intervals are not the best. I think it would be about the most
comfortable and also have very good storage. have you looked at other machines yet? What about the Honda NC
range...scooter like is the Integra 750 any thing up to 90MPG but not a lot of storage room and a chain to oil.
On the other hand service intervals are 8000 miles.
Worth a look.
Lyn.
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Welcome Frenchie,
The France part of your life sounds perfect, the England bit not so.
I used to commute 20K a year and yes the costs can be expensive especially if its done by a dealer sadly Tupperware removal adds to the service costs.
However I think you'll find you'll get a better deal here in the UK on a pre reg or out going model (as well as 0%) than in France.
With Suzuki you will also get a 3 year warranty on a "new" burgman in UK (sure not applicable in EU)
As Lyn says have you considered other models (I was toying with the same options as you) and looked at the mp3 500cc though service intervals are every 5K and cost £300 to £500 minor & major.(dealer figures)
If you don't want triple speed figures outgoing burgman 400 (for undersest storage,though valve check every 15K) or Honda forza 300 (8K service interval)
TBH for that sort of travel mileage I have to conclude you are probably better off with a car such as a dacia (£6K max but basic spec) Citroen C1 (cheapest of the PSA collaboration) or even a smart car.
Keep us posted on how your research and eventual decision.
The France part of your life sounds perfect, the England bit not so.
I used to commute 20K a year and yes the costs can be expensive especially if its done by a dealer sadly Tupperware removal adds to the service costs.
However I think you'll find you'll get a better deal here in the UK on a pre reg or out going model (as well as 0%) than in France.
With Suzuki you will also get a 3 year warranty on a "new" burgman in UK (sure not applicable in EU)
As Lyn says have you considered other models (I was toying with the same options as you) and looked at the mp3 500cc though service intervals are every 5K and cost £300 to £500 minor & major.(dealer figures)
If you don't want triple speed figures outgoing burgman 400 (for undersest storage,though valve check every 15K) or Honda forza 300 (8K service interval)
TBH for that sort of travel mileage I have to conclude you are probably better off with a car such as a dacia (£6K max but basic spec) Citroen C1 (cheapest of the PSA collaboration) or even a smart car.
Keep us posted on how your research and eventual decision.
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Re: Returning to two wheels
Bonjour and welcome if you want new at a good price. The sym 600i is a great bit of kit .I however do think you would get a far better deal in France did to the fact that the quantities available .
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Re: Returning to two wheels
Hi Frenchie and welcome. I don't know if you'll save much money doing the commute the way you suggest. As Lyn says the NC will work out cheaper than the Burgman for what you want.



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However your commuting problem is resolved Welcome to MM.
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Amazing, guys. Thank you so much. More research, clearly. I'll be back, as the big man said.
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Welcome to the forum. Do have a look at other scoots. The comfiest I've had for long distances was a Honda Silver Wing. By far the most enjoyable was a Yamaha T-Max. Both were reliable.
2009 Burgman 400 in sunny Perranporth 
Always seek the happy medium - she's out there, riding her scooter.

Always seek the happy medium - she's out there, riding her scooter.
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Hi Frenchie,, welcome..
That's a lot of miles...
Nice idea,, scooting from France but it won't be cheap,, as others have pointed out. I don't think I could take the pain..
In the wallet or in the arse
That's a lot of miles...
Nice idea,, scooting from France but it won't be cheap,, as others have pointed out. I don't think I could take the pain..
In the wallet or in the arse
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