barryG wrote:theres a Fiat on there that they reckon only 1 exists but I know a man with 2 on the road and neither are the one listed on that site!

Which model?

This one....

http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/fiat_1500_l#!years

But he has two from 1965, the one they list is my old one which was a 66 model.

Click the Tax?SORN tab, hey presto, it shows there are two Fiat 1500 L cars registered in Q3 of 2011
http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/fiat_1500_l#!tax

Exactly, two differing numbers left on the same site! Anyway, weve gone way off topic! I see LML are introducing a Vespa clone with a CVT transmission.... wtf? The idea of the PX is that it the only manual gearchange scooter left so why do LML think people want an auto?

Maybe people love the looks but want a auto transmission (preference or licence reasons).

Maybe, but can you imagine the quality of an Indian CVT system

It really would be a rubber band!

barryG wrote:Maybe, but can you imagine the quality of an Indian CVT system

Well if people are happy with a CVT made in Thailand, why not India?

Can't be worse, surely.

Hmmm, I would say Thailands engineering expertise is about five times that of Indias.... there are just too many poor components from India for me to take them seriously yet. I know they make some Suzuki cars there, but the quality is pretty poor.

For me, the Indians make a great curry and it looks a fascinating country to visit but like France, they do not yet realise the world wants quality products

barryG wrote:Exactly, two differing numbers left on the same site!

The difference? New registrations by year and total registered.
The figures on that site come straight from DVLA, do you know of a better source, if so they would be pleased to hear from you.
Maybe this will help explain it to you: http://howmanyleft.co.uk/about/

barryG wrote:Anyway, weve gone way off topic!

Have to disagree, poor sales of Vespa PX scooters and the veracity of the data website used by me is entirely relevant to the thread.

barryG wrote: I see LML are introducing a Vespa clone with a CVT transmission.... wtf? The idea of the PX is that it the only manual gearchange scooter left so why do LML think people want an auto?

Maybe because almost no-one buys manual gearchange scooters and that includes LMLs.
Also it's far easier to bolt in an existing engine & CVT unit than start from scratch building a manual gearbox job.
Which is exactly what Lambretta have done.