You never ever read my posts properly, I said that right now you can get a VW Up for £7995 and back in 1997 a Fiat Cinq was £7344 which proves car prices havent risen much. You mention the current Fiat, which is a 500 and is a fashion item thus carries a price premium. Look at the Panda prices and youll see a better comparison as that was the Cinq/Seicento replacement.

In fact in 2000, I paid £6800 for a Seicento Sporting which was over £500 less than the first car! Prices are by and large falling for cars and rising for bikes.

I don't keep up with new car prices that closely, but I remember whan a Fiesta/Micra sized car could be had for circa £5000, nowadays they are significantly more than that.

Ford Ka was a supreme example. £4999 OTR for years.
I bought two of them in 3 years - at that price you couldn't go far wrong. Loved them both.
New version, (Fiat 500), £7500, and smaller to boot, (quite literally). Erm, no thank you Henry, if I wanted a Fiat 500, I would buy a Fiat 500, but not at that price.

well i'd like to change mine for something else,looking at sym gts 300 and the burgman 200..an simular money the vespa gts300 .as the're all around the £4000 mark.

phantom309 wrote:well i'd like to change mine for something else,looking at sym gts 300 and the burgman 200..an simular money the vespa gts300 .as the're all around the £4000 mark.

Im looking at more or less the same range of scooters. I do really like the Sym for practical reasons and the Vespa because Im an old Mod at heart plus they dont depreciate too badly if they are looked after and are probably easier to resell.

I take it you particularly want maxi rather than smaller format, such as this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sym-City-Comm ... 3cbf4b24ad

poldark wrote:I take it you particularly want maxi rather than smaller format, such as this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sym-City-Comm ... 3cbf4b24ad

One thing I need is decent storage, I don't have a car so i get my shopping via scoot. The big wheelers
just don't have decent enough storage for my needs. The scoot's with the best storage B650, silverwing
are just to expensive for me to run. I just wish most of the manufacturers focused on 250-400's rather
than focusing on larger displacement scooters/auto-bikes.

Drago wrote:
The scoot's with the best storage B650, silverwing are just to expensive for me to run.

The Burgman 400 has more underseat storage than the Burgman 650, 62 litres to 56 litres.
The B400 is £35 a year RFL and returns over 70 mpg. At 5.5k it is still expensive to buy new for many, but there are lots of good used examples out there.

Drago wrote:

poldark wrote:I take it you particularly want maxi rather than smaller format, such as this?

One thing I need is decent storage, I don't have a car so i get my shopping via scoot. The big wheelers
just don't have decent enough storage for my needs.

Well, thats one thing about the Burger 200....the space is huge - you can fit 2 full face helmets across the width of the scoot! Just make sure you have a guarantee in case the electronic bits go phut.......

Bloody tax is now more then my car
250 £35
car £30.