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Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:39 am
by MrGrumpy
masterchop wrote:
So why do I constantly think to myself "I wish this would just do that extra 10 mph".
Oh yes...the eternal question! Even riders of 185bhp BMW S1000RRs still think the same thing!

Having something of 400 or 500cc does make a difference if you do long journeys - the extra power make things much easier on M-ways etc. The SH300 does go well - I think I once saw 90 on the speedo in favourable conditions, but I found it lacked comfort and fun, as well as luggage space.

The Maj400 could be good compromise, but its as heavy as a Tmax. An old TMax won't cost much to buy - the only real pain is the cost of consumables - tyres, brake disks, drive belts etc

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:46 am
by Deleted User 796
I think everyone has this dilema.You just need to remember that "I want" is different from "I need"

Take a good look at how you actually use the bike day to day. How many rides would the extra power make much difference to you?

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:49 am
by irishrover
masterchop wrote:Glad i'm not alone. I guess it always a case of the grass being greener. doesnt stop the vicious circle though. surprised at the SH300 as i was told (lied to) by a honda dealer at they 'cruise' at 90. if that had been the case thenbit would have been a obvious choice apart from the styling is not quite as id like.

x8 400 is looking the best option but im not happy with prices im seeing so far considering its a superceded bike
I have had my SH300 2008 model pinned wide open and can't get 90mph out of it, it then gives a feeling like it is lurching, I assume this is the rev limiter, you have to back off slightly then as it is a bit unnerving. I am sure it was faster with the old ECU insalled.

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:53 am
by masterchop
geoff wrote:
halfabusa wrote:extra speed is not as important as the way it feels at speed. Doing 70mph easily knowing you can do 100 if you wanted is much more satisfying than doing 70mph while stretching the limits of the engine. So it's a matter of feeling powerful rather than the actual experience. At least that's how i feel.
I agree completely,I would love my scoot to be well within its limits at 80mph,as it is it will buzz along at 70-75mph with not a lot left,but not thrashing it either.
i agree too. its more about having that extra if and when you need it.

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:09 pm
by Funkycowie
If you have it you use it though, at least I do... :lol:

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:33 pm
by R1K SU
After having a 650 Burman, I couldn't go down to a 400 now, it will accelerate at full speed upto. About 90 mph. Before the speedo doesn't rise as fast as it did.
I believe more power is best, others...wouldn't know how to use extra power as they stick to speed limits and never use more than 1/4 throttle.
Go on get a bigger scooter, you can always change it back after a few months, but with summer coming, you may like the extra oomph.

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:36 pm
by barryG
Just one think, you say you dont like the size of the Burgman 400.... its not that different to an X8 ;)

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:44 pm
by capitano
barryG wrote:Just one think, you say you dont like the size of the Burgman 400.... its not that different to an X8 ;)
pssst....also I'd check what engine the x8 has in it....I think you'll find it's a Piaggio Master motor.


.....and the quandary is all to do with having just one bike. I get similar pangs whatever I own and ride. The only answer is to own several bikes...but then I've done that and the quandary turns into "why do I need to look after this many bikes, surely if I found just one I was happy with...?"

There ain't no cure I'm afraid. :lol:

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:46 pm
by horobags
Ive been round this "circle" like a friggin merrygoround, buy a big bike, too big heavy and uneconomical, so buy a smaller scoot, light , fun , economical,,,,,,but could do with more power,,,ect, ect,ect.
Now Ive my GTS 300, and I;ve just bought a 250 majesty, which I;m going on the Dunkirk weekend ride , next weekend, the maj, is the smallest bike in the trip, but it will sit at 70mph, and it handles very well. So I know the bikes limits, and will ride within them, and it will do the job, so I'm happy with it. But bet your arse, when I'm riding home on the tuesday, tired, wet and wanting to get home, I'll think shit why didnt I keep that Honda. :?

Re: My ongoing quandary

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:08 pm
by MrGrumpy
rtfm wrote:I think everyone has this dilema.You just need to remember that "I want" is different from "I need"

Take a good look at how you actually use the bike day to day. How many rides would the extra power make much difference to you?
Well yes..but we're not all that rational! After all this is a forum for Maxi enthusiasts!

You really don't NEED more than 25bhp to cover the ground just as fast as anything else, if you stick to something like speed limits anyway. However, if you do lots of dual carriageway work, then 33bhp is a better bet. However, whilst you don't NEED more than 25 or 33bhp, some us (well, me anyway) WANT more power. If you've the mind of an accountant, you'll stick with a 250. However, if you are a bit more human, the only snag is working out how much to shell out on your indulgence!!