Lou wrote:So are the syms and kymcos catching up with Honda and yamaha etc in the build and reliability stakes?

No real way of knowing for sure because there are so few of them on the road.
Indications are that both Sym and Kymco make very reliable scooters.
(BMW better hope so )

Lou wrote:Because they don't seem to be too much cheaper. I do like the look of the kymco downtown and sym gts evo!

The nearest competition to the £4000 Kymco Downtown is the £5000 Piaggio X10 330.
For the £3800 Sym GTS300 (260) the nearest competition is the £4500 Yamaha Xmax 250.

If Kymco sold the Downtown with the available ABS, tyre pressure monitors and mph speedo for £4000 it would probably be the best vfm maxi on the UK market.
As it is I think the X10 just edges it overall.

[quote="R1K SU"]Su got the 2012 xmax and if your only 5ft 6 to about 5ft 11 you may struggle to put your feet down, the seat is very wide,Im 6ft 1 and cant get my feet flat.
I've got no problems there R1k, hint ..Tallpaul..lol, I've got the 07 xmax at the moment,

gn2 wrote:

Lou wrote:So are the syms and kymcos catching up with Honda and yamaha etc in the build and reliability stakes?

No real way of knowing for sure because there are so few of them on the road.
Indications are that both Sym and Kymco make very reliable scooters.
(BMW better hope so )

Lou wrote:Because they don't seem to be too much cheaper. I do like the look of the kymco downtown and sym gts evo!

The nearest competition to the £4000 Kymco Downtown is the £5000 Piaggio X10 330.
For the £3800 Sym GTS300 (260) the nearest competition is the £4500 Yamaha Xmax 250.

If Kymco sold the Downtown with the available ABS, tyre pressure monitors and mph speedo for £4000 it would probably be the best vfm maxi on the UK market.
As it is I think the X10 just edges it overall.

I shouldve said I was looking at 125cc prices, there seems to be less difference with them

Ah yes, the 125 maxis are all within a few hundred squids.
X-max 125 £3900
S-wing ABS 125 £3850
Kymco DT 125 £3299
Sym GTS 125 £3299