I hope he's alright. As an indication, when I got knocked if my scoot in a similar situation last year the other drivers insurance co. paid out; £2000 personal injury, £1250 for the damage to my scoot, £500 loss of earnings and £500 for damage to equipment - scraped helmet, holed jeans, scraped jacket and a cracked iPhone cover. I did have a bloody aching back for a month and it sort of slightly ruined a water sports holiday I was going on just two days after the accident but all I actually spent out on was a new (secondhand) screen for the scoot and a rear cover for my iPhone. Total cost to me @ £100. Could have possibly got more for personal injury and possessions but it would have been a long drawn-out process and anyway, I was happy with the initial offers.

Hope Alan recovers quickly, it is happening more often, drivers are concentrating on other things than driving, so for the sake of motorcycling defensive riding, I now try to adjust my speed to avoid arriving at junctions or roundabouts at the same time as anyone else. Always try to get a bit of free road space at problem areas, even if it means I speed up to arrive in front of the other vehicle. A problem does arrive if a car that's following me, thinks I'm messing around slowing up and tries to overtake me into the junction, so not everything is foolproof.

ZOOM ZOOM GRANDAD1 wrote:Sorry to hear about Alan , it could of been a lot worse , hopefully he is on the mend ... put a good claim in for personal injuries & clothing ...helmet etc .

Nice one ZZG that'll put our insurance up next year.
Hope he gets back on the road soon.

'man down', that's one headline I dread seeing, there have been a few nasty casualties & deaths reported recently around my way lately, it's a very sobering thought. I hope your mate is on the mend soon.

Steve_D wrote:

Gerard C wrote:............ Next thing he's on his back with a passing nurse telling him not to move and cutting his helmet strap to get it off him......

Some nurse! I was taught in first aid that you shouldn't EVER remove the helmet of a motorcyclist involved in an accident at the scene unless that by leaving it on they would die anyway - reasons given were that they had stopped breathing or had vomited and were in danger of suffocation. It should be left to trained paramedics. Reasoning is that you could do major damage to the neck/spine and you could be liable to prosecution if you caused such damage.

I have undertaken bike first aid training which trains you on how to remove the helmet. This was run by experienced paramedics. Sadly, they have experience of many bikers who have died whilst people stand around screaming that the helmet should not be removed.

There is a time and a place to remove helmets, there is NO hard and fast rule. Yes if you do not know what you are doing you can do more harm, but you can also do more harm letting them die whilst arguing over the removal of a helmet.

The same common sense applies when dealing with people in motorcar incidents, there you have to decide if it is safer to leave them in the car or remove them, I made the correct decision once, I could have stood there demanding they not be removed right up to the point the fuel leak caught alight.

Yes it's all about knowing what you are doing

Steve_D wrote:I hope he's alright. As an indication, when I got knocked if my scoot in a similar situation last year the other drivers insurance co. paid out; £2000 personal injury, £1250 for the damage to my scoot, £500 loss of earnings and £500 for damage to equipment - scraped helmet, holed jeans, scraped jacket and a cracked iPhone cover. I did have a bloody aching back for a month and it sort of slightly ruined a water sports holiday I was going on just two days after the accident but all I actually spent out on was a new (secondhand) screen for the scoot and a rear cover for my iPhone. Total cost to me @ £100. Could have possibly got more for personal injury and possessions but it would have been a long drawn-out process and anyway, I was happy with the initial offers.

You didn't replace your helmet?

I'm glad Alan is ok though, like Horobags said it could've been worse.

Earl wrote:

Steve_D wrote:I hope he's alright. As an indication, when I got knocked if my scoot in a similar situation last year the other drivers insurance co. paid out; £2000 personal injury, £1250 for the damage to my scoot, £500 loss of earnings and £500 for damage to equipment - scraped helmet, holed jeans, scraped jacket and a cracked iPhone cover. I did have a bloody aching back for a month and it sort of slightly ruined a water sports holiday I was going on just two days after the accident but all I actually spent out on was a new (secondhand) screen for the scoot and a rear cover for my iPhone. Total cost to me @ £100. Could have possibly got more for personal injury and possessions but it would have been a long drawn-out process and anyway, I was happy with the initial offers.

You didn't replace your helmet?

I'm glad Alan is ok though, like Horobags said it could've been worse.

As I said, it was literally only scraped - no impact as I landed flat on my arse/back/elbow (my IPhone was in my back pocket) and the scrape occurred when I rested my head on the Tarmac after the accident in relief but anyway, I have bought two helmets since then.

glad to see nothing serious,hope Alan ok and mends well

Sorry to hear this, any news on his condition now.