Yet the burgman 650 which for the last 10 years has been rated the biggest best touring maxi scoot has a tiptronic gearbox, as in this new honda.

I think I would agree with that definition, the main thing being the larger engine size.Changing the subject now, I have owned 27 motorbikes since 1955 which included a Lambretta & a Vespa in the late 50,s & then a 250 & 400/450 ? X9 Piaggios.As was customary I always nodded to other bikers on the road, but since selling my BMW 650GS this year that seems to have stopped, I get ignored.I thought we were ALL bikers.!!!!! Has anybody else noticed this ??Could it be that I wear a textile suit & don't prance around in colourful leathers with kneesliders.

off topic now.. i nod to everyone.. yet i find its the older 25+ on 125`s etc with aprons on etc that ignore you, the 50cc kids nod and beep.. and most older bikers.. i reckon its the commuters whom see it as a transport solution rather than love and enjoyment that dont acknowledge you as another rider

old duffers high fiveing on a bus ,
I stopped nodding to other bikers when I got into scoots, from a distance if they thought I was on a bike Id get a nod, but nodding to a scooterist!!!!! . That doesnt go down well with the leather studded waistcoat, or apache murialed petrol tank.
I did get a nod on me honda 90 last week, but the biker was on his own, and he probably did five 'hail marys' when he got home.

Shame theres not a "PINK" seat version lol . Actually i really like it apart from it being a single seater ,but the 200 rear tire is a bit of over kill and bloody expensive to replace .Very judge dred .

i think i may get one just to piss every body off...

Its a 2 seater ferret, the backrest folds back as a pillion seat! oh and go on kayz do it!

I'm all for futuristic "Akira" style bikes but I guess maxi scoots is as far I go.
I doubt I'd get something like this but maybe it's just wrong timing for me as I'd like something more pure, like a Supermoto. At least at the moment.

gn2 wrote:Two wheels plus engine equals motorcycle.

The Vultus is a modified CTX by the looks of it.

I am of the same opinion. Though we do like to categorise. And the line between scooters and conventional bikes is getting thinner and thinner. Maybe because they are all motorcycles after all.


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The definition of a scooter is based on its frame. (official internationally agreed definition)
No direct structural member between the seat base and headstock makes it a scooter.
Transmission, foot supports etc don't make any difference

Ok. Don't really get it. lol

Could you explain it with these examples?










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