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Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:33 pm
by Deleted User 4154
Steve_D wrote:If you bought it privately, I don't think you'll really have a leg to stand on.
I have to agre with Steve, you might be able to appeal to the seller's better nature but beyond that private sales are very much caveat emptor.

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:22 pm
by michaelphillips
it`s one of those .. that you may have to bite the bullet :D at 66,000 miles you need to be more intense in looking around and listening, but that`s done now, not sure how much you paid :?: for her.. i would have a bash at doing the bearings yourself then it will be a few quid on bearings and some gear oil and gasket, then she how she runs...

it could be the needle bearing at the rear of the clutch :?: :?: :?:
take a look at this

take a look at this thread as well :D http://burgmanusa.com/forums/14-burgman ... noise.html

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:15 pm
by Data
A needle bearing at the centre of the clutch won't be dangerous if it's noisy. I'm assuming the owner was told it is dangerous because the gearbox drive shaft has play in it meaning new bearings for that shaft (2) and maybe the clutch input shaft bearings (2). If those four bearing are gone then you need to replace the idler shaft bearings (2 making 6 in all) and maybe the transmission cover bearing on the end of the clutch shaft. That's all. Sounds a lot but it's not really and it's reasonable on cost. There isn't much inside the gearbox to worry about with only two shafts with gears, and an idler (reduction) gear. Nowt to them and easy to fettle. As the guys are saying, if bought from a private owner, then you have no recourse to justice except if the seller misrepresented the bike by saying it was in perfect condition with definitely nothing wrong with it. But you have to prove that. Best to forget about it is my advice and fix the bike if the rest of it is in good condition.

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:56 pm
by Tonybmw92
I did meet him halfway but only because he wasn't local but now I know why he was so keen to keep away from his house.

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:59 pm
by Tonybmw92
Data how much would it cost to get all six bearings? Plus how difficult is the job to do?

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:17 pm
by Steve_D
Tonybmw92 wrote:I did meet him halfway but only because he wasn't local but now I know why he was so keen to keep away from his house.
My number one rule when buying a car or a bike privately is to view the car/bike at the address in the log book. I always make that clear when I phone up - "Is your name in the look book and will the address in the logbook be where I will be viewing the car/bike?). ANY excuses as to why that is not possible (selling for a friend/relative/workmate/bought it for my son who doesn't like it/lost his licemce/had an accident/gone to work abroad/meet you halfway etc etc) is a good indicator that the seller is some sort of trader who does not want you to be able to track him. Odds are that the name in the logbook will not be the person you met halfway but you live and learn. Been there, done that!

If you must meet halfway, get them to bring some ID - passport/driving licence/utility bill and make sure that tallies with the name and address in the log book.

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:44 pm
by michaelphillips
i would think the best action you can take is to remove the tranny case, then inspect where the noise is comming from, might not be the gearbox bearings, could be a clutch bearing.. taking it off and inspecting before you start to think of buying anything. data might be able to say whether the clutch case inner has a bearing in that also, your going to be on a learning curve, but the tranny outer case needs removal first.

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:39 pm
by Steve_D
Don't they have a bearing in the rear casing that supports the clutch or something. I though I'd read on here about people replacing them. Either that or ive been dreaming again!

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:05 pm
by Tonybmw92
If I remove the tranny case is it just a few bolts? I won't get a load of oil running out etc?

Re: Help!,,,

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:01 pm
by michaelphillips
no there is no oil coming out, the final transmission with the oil in, is at the back nearer the wheel which is sectioned off, that way you can change the transmission oil (bit like a car) you have at the bottom of the rear of the inner transmission housing a bolt to drain the oil and a nut further up where you put in the right amount in ml of new gear oil.

the two nuts you will see near the rear wheel side . you remove the outer transmission case then the inner transmission case, inner transmission case will have a bearing where the clutch nut rests... once these two are off you get to see the clutch and how it works