yellowMax wrote:As far as I know there is absolutely no connection between the two companies apart from name.

Indeed, but that doesn't preclude Aero from lending a hand.

Doubt it. They are seperate companies and the R&D requirements are different anyway.
I don't know how much Piaggio actually do "in house".

Everybody on here probably already knows but:
The first Vespa was designed by an aircraft designer called D'ascanio and the front suspension is straight off an aircraft nose wheel

Edit: oops, I must type slow.
If they want a helping hand there more appropriate places to get it.
There is a connection, Piaggio were originally an early aircraft manufacturer, destroyed in WW2 but resurected afterward. Some time in the 60's the aero side split off and they went their seperate ways.

PS. Ive never flown a Piaggio but I've flown Agustas.
There bikes don't seem to have as much offensive armament though


Agusta 129.

Bluebottle wrote:PS. Ive never flown a Piaggio but I've flown Agusta helicopters.
There bikes don't seem to have as much offensive armament though

Oh yeah?



Deployed with their airborne forces, this was essentially a militarized Vespa scooter outfitted with a 75mm recoilless rifle. Five parachutes would carry the two-man gun crew, weapon, ammunition, and two scooters safely to earth, and the men would load the weapon on one scooter and the ammo on the other, then ride away. More impressively, the recoilless rifle could be fired effectively on the move by the best of the gun crews. Total cost? About $500 for the scooter and the recoilless rifle was war surplus. Were they successful military machines? Well, the French Army deployed about 800 armed scooters in wars conducted in both Algeria and Indochina.

Your on!
See you on the plain

Bluebottle wrote:Your on!
See you on the plain

Ok. You tell me how much your hardware costs and I'll match it with the same value in recoiless Vespas.

ps. Know where I can get 75mm AP cheap?

Sorry can't find the invoice.

Cheapest way to get AP is a slow pass, but it gets delivered pointy end first

Just received new copy of T&G which contains a "Launch" review of the X10. All very positive but we really need to see some comparison reviews. They have a section at the end where they do a brief comparison with what they see as the competition. Strangely they chose the Majesty but published a picture of the Burgman at the header ?.

Geoff.

Saw that Mac. The mag has many errors in it this month, mis-quoting all sort of engine specs etc. But what a nice bike the X10 is. Also, did you see the concluding part of the long term Maxsym 400 test? Again a very nice bike, and there are some other Sym tests of the GTS models with the new 278cc engine in the Sym GTS300. Looks good.

Yes, good mag but full of errors, never mind I think we get the "guist". Re Sym I find them a complete contradiction, The more I research their products the more I am impressed but the closer I look at the dealer/importer structure the more I despair, such a shame,

Geoff.