why dont they make them lighter? at 192kg dry weight

That isn't the dry weight, that's the kerb weight, i.e. fully fuelled and oiled and ready to go.

gn2 wrote:That's great news.
£4499 for the Forza is very competitive compared to the Yamaha Xmax at £4499 and Sym Joymax at £4390.
Wonder if we'll be getting the ABS Forza?

Yes... very similar to the SH300, and much better price than we'd feared. Now, it makes an interesting choice with the X-max 400 - the Xmax has another 6bhp approx, but costs £700 more. I'd be very surprised if we don't get the ABS version (after all, the SH300 had ABS), but you never know.....

Honda seem to be keen on introducing ABS here, more so than other marques.
I can't think of any other manufacturer who offers ABS on a 125 in the UK, Honda offer two, the S-wing and the SH.
So I think we're in with a good shout of getting it on the Forza.
In terms of useful features it would give the Forza a huge advantage over the competition.

Was at my local Honda dealership on Saturday and they confirmed from their dealer email that it is to have the C-ABS and the price of £4499 is on the road. Good news is they are also getting a demo model in white, apparently Honda are insisting their dealers have a demo model available for at least 90 days (when they can sell it on at a discounted price).

At £4499 I can see it being a big success.
Just need to know the service interval, valve clearance adjustment method and interval now.

Anybody got any news on aftermarket high screens for the Forza? can,t find anything from Givi yet.

It deffo needs one!!!

Screen size is really just a matter of personal preference.
Bigger screens can sometimes make wind buffeting worse.
Plenty people have fitted bigger screens to their similarly styled PCXs, some have taken them off again.
I have never felt the need for one.
I think you would really need to do some miles on a Forza before making judgement.

I fancy one of these.....in white,,,Anyone in the market for a 2011 SH300 with less than 1200 miles on the clock and in showroom condition....you can have it for the part exchange price the shop offers me....I need to keep the number plate

heres a write up I've just read, sorry if its been posted before

In the early stages of the new scooter’s development, Honda’s engineers debated thoroughly how, why and where people around the world used their scooters, not just at present, but also for the future. Every aspect and detail was examined and the result, the NSS300 Forza, is designed to fit seamlessly and usefully into people’s daily lives, not only for commuting but also touring or sportier riding.
Physically big enough to accommodate two people in comfort, the NSS300 Forza’s flowing bodywork also provides superb weather protection, and space for two full-face crash helmets under the seat. But its body is also not so large that getting through tight spaces becomes a problem, because while the NSS300 Forza needs to perform at highway speeds, neatly dealing with urban traffic is also important.
Strong and extremely durable, its lightweight steel underbone frame offers nimble steering in traffic and stability at speed. 35mm telescopic forks, twin rear shocks and double-sided aluminium swingarm provide a comfortable and reassuring ride, while powerful front and rear disc brakes are assisted by CBS or optional Combined ABS.
The NSS300 Forza is powered by a torque 279cc, single-cylinder, four-stroke engine that delivers excellent fuel economy with all-round usability and great cruising speed. Final drive is via belt and V-Matic automatic transmission. Crisp and responsive, it provides more than enough power for the highway, with instant acceleration around town.