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Re: New Sym??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:21 pm
by Drago
Will SYM give it a Stainless exhaust? My 2008 GTS 250 2nd exhaust has rotted away and finally split open today ! All my previous SYM's suffered with horrendous exhausts, they rusted over in months and began to crumble after a year.

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:32 pm
by spaceprobe
I have to say that is the weak spot. I can't fault my Max, it's garaged and well looked after but already the exhaust is rusting. Taiwan could do with some feedback on that, I won't be happy if I upgrade to the 600 and that starts to rust so soon.

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:38 pm
by SYMUK
Drago, Space Probe

Good point, will feedback

Expect emissions vs cost an issue - but on a unit of this value....

Will feedback result

Thanks

SYMUK

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:08 pm
by spaceprobe
Piaggio put a nice stainless steel one on the x10 500

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:11 pm
by ollie
I have the same problem as Drago and Spaceprobe. I am on my third joyride, my current one being the 200i Evo I really like the bike apart from the name (why isn't just called the RV as it is in the States and everywhere but the UK it seems).
I can live with the short service intervals compared to other makes but I have only had it a year and with low miles and garaged i have already had to respray the exhaust because of rust build up despite regular cleaning. This is an improvement over the previous two models I have owned but not good. At least on this model it is easier as the system is in two parts.
The factory replacement part is very expensive and when it needs to be replaced it would be great if there was an official Sym stainless steel option available.

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:12 am
by SYMUK
Hi All

SYM are at the ealy stages of designing a replacement for the RV- Joyride - about two years to launch date.

On 17th October I received from Taiwan the following:

As you know we are going to have new Joyride
We would like to know what quality problem, or design problem what we can improve, such as FLAT FLOOR, smaller windscreen/visor, smaller inlet of radiator, etc.. ?
I tried our service department, but it seems everything is fine with joyride,
Have you any comments, suggestion on quality, design to new joyride ? please feel free to let us know and improve,


So Guys, if you REALLY wish to be part of the design process, let me know your thoughts!

Thanks
SYMUK

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:28 am
by horobags
I think most scooter steel exhausts suffer from corrosion. The black paint just isnt enough protection for our salty winters, Ive seen many rusty honda exhausts. A coating of Acf-50 would help, but I think they corrode from the inside out, as they retain moisture.If my mind was set to buy a new SYM, ( whuch I do like many models) , Id have to budget a couple of hundred quid into the cost for a s/steel replacement after a couple of years.

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:34 am
by Bluebottle
Stainless steal exhausts are great
Stainless steal fastenings work loose though so need grip washers

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:46 am
by stollie
I must say those Sym's look nice and a bit like the Yamaha or Burgman. 8-)

Re: New Sym??

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:23 pm
by mac65
Yeah I must agree with the exhaust issue. My GTS has just over 5000 miles after one and a half years and I've repainted my exhaust 3 times and it,s needing it done again. For all the cost of adding a stainless exhaust at manufacture would not put the list price up by much and would improve a very good machine even more.