How F*cking Much!!!!!

[Funkycowie]

I did a half way replace before as I was only doing short journeys so did not change the filter, it is very helpful information

So the filter screws in then? I wasn't sure if it slots and twists or just screws in

[darrenandsarah]

Well if I were a dealer who had a customer came in that had spent the amount of money it takes to get onto an 11 plate Tmax, I'd also make up a random stupidly high figure for any work that supposedly needed doing.

Useful reply, actually it was a relative bargain £5500 6 months old and 2k miles...... I've since been offered 6 grand for it! But thanks for your interest....

[Liam]

Which dealer is it?
CMC at daybrook??
I used them a few years ago, and I also used CMC at Clay Cross last summer. they charge £55 plus vat for labour, that's the trouble.

My 08 mk2 has never been officially serviced. previous owner Craig did the engine and transmission oil in the first year he had it.
And I've been doing them regularly since. When it came up to 16,000 miles, Clive did my belt change.
I change the filters as per schedule as well. i keep it all documented, but i know it isn't the same as having a dealer stamp.

I have had a problem with the fuel pump and this was replaced by yamaha when i reminded them about recalls in other countrys.
There was no problem with me not having service history and the work was done at CMC Clay Cross. The part was free but i was charged 2 hours labour,, but I was just happy to get it done.

I have no intention of getting rid so don't feel the need to have service history to keep the resale value up.
When it's 6 or 7 yrs old will the difference in value be worth all the costs of yearly servicing??
I don't know but I just don't fancy paying someone £55 plus per hour for doing a few easy jobs that a simpleton like me can do!

[SpikeOne]

Here here!

[victor]

i know what you mean having dealer stamps just means there is proof of (servicing or being ripped off)

[StephenC]

Well if I were a dealer who had a customer came in that had spent the amount of money it takes to get onto an 11 plate Tmax, I'd also make up a random stupidly high figure for any work that supposedly needed doing.

Useful reply, actually it was a relative bargain £5500 6 months old and 2k miles...... I've since been offered 6 grand for it! But thanks for your interest....

Oh I am really interested. And I am glad you referred to it as a "relative bargain"....

My sentiment still applies though - if you turn up with an expensive looking machine in these tough trading times you are much more likely to be quoted an amount in tune with how much the dealer thinks you are willing to be fleeced for. Even here where you have got a huge chunk off the new price, you still paid a lot of money for a scooter.

I'll give you this nugget of info about me which you can use against me as you so wish: my own 2009, 31k mile scooter is about to be replaced by an identical but older model. This one is costing me £2250 and I hope to get around £1500 when the old/new one is ready for sale. Reason for swapping? The new/old one has 27k miles LESS on the clock.

And yes, in answer to another comment: I would agree that scooter riders doing 12k miles a year are very much in the minority, but after using bus and tube for the last 2 weeks boy oh boy am I happy to be one of them.

[Liam]

Oh I am really interested. And I am glad you referred to it as a "relative bargain"....

My sentiment still applies though - if you turn up with an expensive looking machine in these tough trading times you are much more likely to be quoted an amount in tune with how much the dealer thinks you are willing to be fleeced for. Even here where you have got a huge chunk off the new price, you still paid a lot of money for a scooter.

Thats rather harsh, Stephen. You can't compare a 250 to a Tmax.
Theres an 11 plate Peugeot Satelis 500 on Autotrader for £4995,, I'd rather pay the extra £505 for the Tmax

And if you're looking at official dealers, you'll get charged £50 plus per hour labour, whatever it looks like. Be it a Tmax, an R1 or a Yamaha Giggle!

[StephenC]

Yes, you're right. I was a bit harsh. I've been on public transport a lot lately so am feeling grumpy.

But you'd trade ABS and the built-in ABUS (let alone the underseat storage, the extra cubby holes, and the 12v power socket) to get a bike that allegedly handles better (although the Sat500 entered competitely in France a couple of years ago did ok) for more money? I mean that really is the only plus point it has, doesn't it? Maybe the Tmax really is that superior to ride, but as a commuter? No thanks not for me.

[darrenandsarah]

MMM your current rides reviews, think i'll stick with the yamaha thanks.....that's the beauty of choice, I actually don't care for yours much and your reply to my post was a pointless attempt to undermine mine, but I really couldnt give a fuck what you think.....

Written on: 08/04/2010
★★☆☆☆
After 1000 miles the fuel gauge packed up , 2 days with...

After 1000 miles the fuel gauge packed up , 2 days with the dealer and it still does not work properly.. a replacement set of clocks was found to be secondhand and defective when the dealer fitted them. I agree with comments that the fitted Hutchinson tyres are poor, OK if it is warm and dry, very poor otherwise especially the front. I have been riding since 1977 and can say that the front forks are the worst I have ever had, no feel, very poor damping and get very unsettled on anything but smooth tarmac. Good point, this is far more stable in crosswinds than a Tmax or Burgman 400K3, and the clutch is light years better than the Burgman. Now 8/4/10 I find that my dealer has dropped Peugeot, and several others in Essex are in dispute with them. My rear shocks are rusty after 4500 miles and I cannot get it sorted. totally unacceptable I shall contact 3 legged cross ( the importers ) directly. I shall not buy another Peugeot.

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Written on: 26/02/2010
★★★★☆
Did not really want a Peugeot Satelis but that's one of...

Did not really want a Peugeot Satelis but that's one of the very few available 250cc GT scooter fitted with ABS, a prime consideration of mine. Sure enough it probably saved my life when a driver jumped the red lights. (The ABS allowed for max breaking and effectively released the front wheel preventing skidding under the car.) Good Points: Great GT, excellent rider protection (rain, wind and 1 car ramming: fairing took the brunt on the side and it was still rideable until repairs), comfortable on long rides, especially with optional hand guards, aesthetics, top front light(s), great boot size, very efficient ABS breaking + emergency power assist braking (as tested in real life), very heavy ABUS security chain, reasonable petrol consumption, 3.80litres/100km, complete dashboard, good wing mirrors, first class central stand. Not So Good: Slow start. A nippy 125/200cc might just burn you off. No kick start. If battery goes down you are stuck! Continental KM speedo annoying, limited duo for a passenger with rather short legs, steering very much subject to 'tramline' effect, can't trust Huntchinson original tyres: no grip on wet, digital temperature dashboard functions and rev counter 'died' and now the petrol gauge is faulty after just over 1000 miles, belt/variator started making unhealthy noises at low speed(I'll soon find out what Peugeot national warranty is worth locally). Ah! changing rear bulb is an absolute joke, optional Peugeot equipment is too expensive for what is just molded plastic; cannot those parts on Ebay, naf manual. Wished it were build like a Yamaha. However the ABS breaking and solid build saved my baconon the day.

[barryG]