jamie wrote:actually i was trying to share 18 years experience working for continental ......
Continental is in the business of selling tyres not tyre plugs. The mushroom plugs where the tyre is dismounted and the plug properly applied from the inside make a perfectly reputable repair. Your type of posting just spreads FUD.
jamie wrote:actually i was trying to share 18 years experience working for continental .....
but i will bow to your clearly superior knowledge
oh yeah its patients not patience..
I didn't say I knew better than you. I know very little about this and was listening to all sides No probs with sharing a opinion or experience as I said. It's calling people stupid for not agreeing with you that's the issue. 18 years of experience doesn't mean you can call someone stupid for not knowing or agreeing You may or may not meant to cause offence, but some will rightly taken it as so.
Hello Jamie, I'm sure you have a lot of experience in the tyre trade but you clearly know nothing about Ultraseal (which is not in the same category as other live in the tyre sealants). The Royal Mail uses it in it's 32,000 vehicle fleet, many UK Police forces use it, huge numbers of commercial fleets and many many IAM groups (of which I too am a member of the IAM) use and recommend it for cars and motorcycles. My cousin, a police motorcyclist has it in his work bike and it's used in all his force vehicles etc etc etc... And of course our USA cousins use it liberally in all and sundry. It's use is growing since it was introduced as a retail product in about 2000. But in total it's been around for 43 years now for use by the services and commercial fleets. It's used by many airforces around the world to prevent pressure loss from their low pressure tyres on landing etc. When I was driving army landrovers we had it in our tyres and I'm glad to say I probably owe my life to it as it sealed incoming rounds to our tyres very effectively on several occassions (this is actually what it was designed for in the first instance). It's good, it works, it's non toxic and it doesn't stop anyone from have a proper repair done later if they want. But why would they, as once it seals a puncture, it never leaks from that spot again and it is so safe that the DOT do not require a speed restriction on it like patches and plugs do. Just trying to educate you as you may benefit like some of us have. Grumpy, hope you've got that tyre fixed now. If you need any wind, I've got plenty!!!
Probably not ugly enough for the 'Ugly Bunch'!
Been riding for 55 years & owned too many bikes to list here...
OK since we're discussing (loosely) Ultraseal etc., here's a question.
One of the times I was using one of the gunges (Punctureseal probably), I picked up a huge great screw in the tyre - it was around 4" long and over 0.25" wide.
Now the punctureseal partially worked, as there was no immediate deflation, but later on it was obvious that the pressure was steadily going down. When I inspected the tyre, I - maybe foolishly - removed the screw (I needed a big screwdriver to unscrew it from the tyre!). I was hoping the gunge might seal it, but there was a big hiss and that was it - game over. Should I have left it in there? Even if the Gunge works, are you supposed to leave the offending object in the tyre ? That seems like a bad idea to me - or are you supposed to remove it and hope the gunge works??
You should remove the offending object just as you did to make sure that any intrusion doesn't do further internal damage to your tyre. So you did the right thing. Remove the object and spin the tyre until the hole is sealed. However, certainly with ultraseal, it won't seal a hole bigger than 6mm. I would have thought Ultraseal would have done it though but obviously not the product you had in at that time. Military grade Ultraseal (not available to the public to my knowledge) will seal bigger holes. All of my punctures in bikes have been to the rear wheel and usually always caused by a two inch nail or a screw of some kind. I've been lucky to have Ultraseal fix it instantly without any pressure loss at all. So far never had Ultraseal let me down in 20 years on bikes and I've had a few punctures. My Vstrom had two punctures in the rear tyre and I rode it for a further 8,000 miles without further leaks or problems, no other repairs required.
Probably not ugly enough for the 'Ugly Bunch'!
Been riding for 55 years & owned too many bikes to list here...
Ultraseal is good it's not let me down in 12 years on 8 diff machines, sometimes it can take a few days for it to work the trick is to keep the wheel spinning until it works so for example if you remove a nail/screw and ultraseal is coming out re inflate and ride then re check pressure until no pressure is lost
mottza wrote:It's calling people stupid for not agreeing with you that's the issue. 18 years of experience doesn't mean you can call someone stupid for not knowing or agreeing
Well i think it's stupid to not allow stupid people to be called stupid. Thats a fact in my 41 years of calling people stupid - FACT!!!!!111!!
SO back to the matter at hand... is Ultraseal the stuff the tyre people do not like if the wheel has to come off? And as it seems to be recommended (except by the odd person) where does one buy this miracle snake oil juice?
I've never had a tyre company say they don't like it when it's come time to change the tyre. But I've heard some people say the tyre change guy has moaned. I think that dates back to when some tyre sealants were toxic, and some still might be I think. But I've found as long as you tell the tyre technician there is Ultraseal in the tyre and it's non toxic before he does the job there isn't a problem. It just washes out of the carcass and off the wheel rim easily. Do a google search for Ultraseal and you can read all about it and where to buy it. A bonus is that is does increase tyre life a tad by distributing excess heat around the tyre more evenly reducing wear. It seems to work in that respect too as far as I can tell from my own experience. It just doesn't cause any problems in the tyre whatsoever, and no balance problems as long as the wheel is in balance before you put it in.
If I called you 'stupid' for not knowing about 'ultraseal' I think you would object, or you should!
Probably not ugly enough for the 'Ugly Bunch'!
Been riding for 55 years & owned too many bikes to list here...
Zed wrote:SO back to the matter at hand... is Ultraseal the stuff the tyre people do not like if the wheel has to come off? And as it seems to be recommended (except by the odd person) where does one buy this miracle snake oil juice?
Yes my mechanic hates it ( abit messy when he romoves the tyres ) this is the genuine stuff now called puncture safe http://www.ultraseal.biz/pages/bikers.htm look on ebay or amazon to get it abit cheaper, you only need one large bottle that will do both tyres
