Maybe so, until you have a accident with one of these ped's or scooters and you find they are virtually uninsured.

Meldrew wrote:Old gits of a certain age will remember the similar outlandish performance claims made by spotty youths riding the Yamaha FS1E 50cc "Sixteener Special" sports moped of the 1970's. Owners of "Fizzies" would regularly write to the Letters page of MCN claiming that their 50cc two-stroke moped could do 60 or 70+ mph, when in reality it struggled to get past 40mph.

Every new moped is restricted to 30 mph in the UK. We've had this outdated law for years. So if you are 16 you can only legally ride a moped. Alter or de-restrict and you no longer have a legal machine unless you are 17 and have informed your insurance company.

We have the youngsters in the shop bragging how their de-restricted 'ped will hit 70mph. I always argue it won't and doesn't and that most Italian speedos can read over by as much as 10%. They won't be told and I normally concede their 'ped will do 70 followed by a sarcastic 'strapped to the back of a AA recovery van!'

I've noticed the 'my ped does 60-70mph bunch', typically on youtube are reading there speedo's wrong. They may be doing
70, but thats 70kmh which is actually 42mph!

My Ludix could spin right the clock with a good tail wind and hill.

mottza wrote:Maybe so, until you have a accident with one of these ped's or scooters and you find they are virtually uninsured.

The thing is a 150 or 166cc kitted PX still has less HP than something like a Piaggio X8 125 so really the laws should be about power rather than the cc's.

Yes, it should be power/weight ratio.

Meldrew wrote:Old gits of a certain age will remember the similar outlandish performance claims made by spotty youths riding the Yamaha FS1E 50cc "Sixteener Special" sports moped of the 1970's. Owners of "Fizzies" would regularly write to the Letters page of MCN claiming that their 50cc two-stroke moped could do 60 or 70+ mph, when in reality it struggled to get past 40mph.

Yep mine was a Yellow one with disc brake.Sold it for £100.If only we new now back then..

TmaX9 wrote:If you are over 17 and have a full car licence you don't need to ride a restricted 50cc nor do you need L plates as long as it's insured as such and you don't even need a CBT until you want to do your test

I'm pretty sure this isnt true. I didnt need L plates or a CBT when i rode a 50cc but thats because i passed my car test pre 2001, i think if you passed the test after that then you'd need to do a CBT and display L plates

Thats what I said earlier in the thread.

richie the 1st wrote:

Meldrew wrote:Old gits of a certain age will remember the similar outlandish performance claims made by spotty youths riding the Yamaha FS1E 50cc "Sixteener Special" sports moped of the 1970's. Owners of "Fizzies" would regularly write to the Letters page of MCN claiming that their 50cc two-stroke moped could do 60 or 70+ mph, when in reality it struggled to get past 40mph.

Yep mine was a Yellow one with disc brake.Sold it for £100.If only we new now back then..

Ah yes you had the desirable DX model with disc brake & nicer paint scheme etc whereas I had the poverty version with drum brakes
Mate had an AP50 which was always so much faster and he swore it was standard.