I think it was something like 50cms of reflective stuff on your gear, which a lot have already.

It's 150 sq.cms.
My Oxprod H-Belt has more than that.

A pillion is also required to comply with the rule.

StephenC wrote:Well at least one part of your speculation can be laid to rest.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/ ... -measures/

So if somebody buys a brand new Vespa PX or LML next year they can't even change the exhaust? The same applies to smaller maxi scooters, my old MP3 250 had a Leo Vince exhaust fitted.

How will they enforce the exhaust rule? I used to put my standard back on for MOT's then changed it back when I got home.

It says only for new licence holders which I guess includes CBTers as well.

only new A2 license holders to be specific, so after two years you can mod the shit out of any bike you get?

The new laws are just common sense...really, they are. You won't be able to tamper with some stuff on some bikes in case you alter the bikes known performance taking it out of the sphere it was designed for. You don't want learner and newer riders breaking the law as some do now. But once you have your licence you can do stuff if you want that falls within the law and that doesn't affect emissions. That means you should be able to do loads. I would point out that in the car world anti-tamper has been around for years and hasn't had one negative impact on what owners want to do, still within the law. It's only done good, and prevented people turning their cars in to nasty loud smelly smoking heaps that they think go better (and usually they don't!). The same will happen for bikes. Police will be able to check some aspects of a bike by the roadside to make sure it is in compliance with the law. Having seen the proposals it's all a bit of a non event in real terms and just won't affect most people, only those intent on breaking the law. I would point out that many do that now and it does need to be stopped as it has huge implications for us all if someone riding a non legal bike causes an accident as they won't have any insurance. There are many cases of that now happening and it must be stamped out. Just keep you bike in good condition and enjoy it and it will pass it's MOT's as normal and you will be able to mod it too with the right licence. There really isn't any drama in any of this. The upside is we will get better bikes for sure in the future.

MrGrumpy wrote: Apparently the Netherlands and Sweden don't have any MOT tests for bikes at all. I have a vague recollection that Finland dropped MOTs for Cars since mechanical failures caused so few accidents (but I could be wrong on that!).

In Sweden, motorbikes have to go through MOT testing every second year.

Which does make some sense, considering we never ride a motorcycle more than 6 months per year. In northern Sweden the "riding" season is just 4 months a year or less, and we do service them yearly anyway.


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MAG's NEWS on the proposals

Incidentally, on the MAG page is a column on the Left regarding other topics, one of which is that the French have ditched the '150 sq.cms. HiViz' business.