Dave Weller wrote:I think you did the right thing, not getting the Deauville, they are massively dull, and a burg400 is sluggish below 70mph.
Enjoy the 1300.
PS. any takers on dull and sluggish bikes I own.

Good bikes, but they're not called Dullville for nothing.

Dave Weller wrote:I think you did the right thing, not getting the Deauville, they are massively dull, and a burg400 is sluggish below 70mph.
Enjoy the 1300.
PS. any takers on dull and sluggish bikes I own.

I don't find my Deauville 'dull'... Maybe the lack of excitement is because the Deauville performs the task it was designed to do with consummate ease and lack of histrionics. It does not pretend to be something it isn't. As some advertising once said; "it does exactly what it says on the tin".

Oh yes, just remembered why I was here... I like your new bike.

JohnR93 wrote:

Dave Weller wrote:I think you did the right thing, not getting the Deauville, they are massively dull, and a burg400 is sluggish below 70mph.
Enjoy the 1300.
PS. any takers on dull and sluggish bikes I own.

I don't find my Deauville 'dull'... Maybe the lack of excitement is because the Duville performs the task it was designed to do with consummate ease and lack of histrionics. It does not pretend to be something it isn't. As some advertising once said; "it does exactly what it says on the tin".

Oh yes, just remembered why I was here... I like your new bike.

I had a test ride on a colleague's deauville at work and it was very good and balanced. I don't think they are dull either. I was looking for a shaft drive bike which was within my budget with reasonable mileage, but the only alternatives were BMW and pan euro examples with galactic miles. I actually had my head set for a deauville, even offered a guy on ebay a px, but just before i met him i saw this on ebay. That's when my heart made the decision

JohnR93 wrote:

Dave Weller wrote:I think you did the right thing, not getting the Deauville, they are massively dull, and a burg400 is sluggish below 70mph.
Enjoy the 1300.
PS. any takers on dull and sluggish bikes I own.

I don't find my Deauville 'dull'... Maybe the lack of excitement is because the Duville performs the task it was designed to do with consummate ease and lack of histrionics. It does not pretend to be something it isn't. As some advertising once said; "it does exactly what it says on the tin".

Oh yes, just remembered why I was here... I like your new bike.

The Deauville is a superbly reliable machine, but for some people it just can't shake that reputation for being a bit lack lustre in the acceleration department. Basically Honda made the engine as flat as a pancake which suits some people perfectly because they just want a reliable easy to ride machine.
The NC isn't fast either and a few find that a bit boring, but is definitely has a bit more pep than the Deauville with all the extra weight it carries.

did almost the same thing got rid of the xmax 400 for a gtr 1400 .. i find the 400 scoots are kinda not quite right for cracking off big miles , i go to southern spain a few times a year and become to find it a slog .. and its over kill for town work . so i kept the sport city 300 for nipping round town . and the gtr is a real blast on the open road

I had a gold Deauville 650 back in 2000, wasn't that keen of the looks but it did a good job of touring, tough and reliable, kept it two years, never let me down, phil

halfabusa wrote: Data - Thanks mate! This one is really the Starship Enterprise! I felt a bit guilty getting rid of the burgman after all that work you put in helping me to deglaze the clutch but it had to be done after i lost my trust in it leaving me stranded second time in 2 years. Looking forward to meeting you again. Send my regards to Sandra and Smokey

Don't feel guilty about chopping in the Burg. It has to be done when you get the calling! Sounds like you need the extra power too if you are doing more motorway. Sandra and Smokey both say "hi"...well actually, Smokey says "meow"!

The Deauville gets a bad rap when it is in fact a damn fine machine.If I could find a nice one at the right price it would serve my purposes very well indeed and I would certainly take one over another 650 Burgman.

Hughie wrote:All for the sake of a grease nipple.

Is it possible to install grease nipples without a strip down job, can you get at the linkages with the rear wheel out?
Or would you have to strip it down to install them?

Good question. You can certainly get access to the linkage but installing a grease nipple isn't really possible.A roller bearing sits in the linkage,drill through that and it's game over.Also the make-up of the bearing doesn't really allow for a grease nipple to even work.The width of the bearing plus the 2 seals equal the width of the linkage. I think the middle part of the link has a double bearing with space in the middle but that's not the one causing all the trouble.

I have heard from some customers that the FJR owners club offer services to owners and that it's possible to fit one of the bolts the other way round to facilitate removal.I've looked at a few but can't really see how it would help.It's a bad design pure and simple.

The one problem with grease nipple fed bearings is that over time,the grease can build up until there is enough pressure to force the seals out with a grease gun. I'm struggling to think of any modern Yams that have a grease nipple anywhere on them.