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Re: Best choice
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:02 pm
by Data
DTO wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:24 am
Data- ped parts have genuine Piaggio 250/300 belts on offer for £44.95 .
https://www.pedparts.co.uk/product/7506 ... a-250300cc
I ordered one as my gts300 is 7 years old now on original belt but only done 5000km .
Do you think the rollers/sliders should be changed too or can I get away with just the belt ?
Brilliant price on an oem belt! Well done. Yes, you can get away with just the belt. But really I'd probably change out the rollers and variator back plate guides too as they are so little money to do and you are going to have all the parts laying on the ground anyway. Although I suspect your rollers will be in fine condition at 5000km. Keep them as spares. I actually change out my belt, rollers and guides all at the same time of 7500-8000 miles. My rollers are still fine at 6250miles so letting them go a bit longer is fine (6250 is the recommended change out point, but you probably know that). But although I change mine at 7500-8000 miles, not everyone will find their rollers are still ok at that mileage. It just depends how you ride the bike and what sort of use the bike is put to. If you do lots of commuting in town with lots of stop start then the rollers will wear more quickly. If doing longer runs with less town work the rollers can still be in very good condition at 8-9000 miles. Given that Piaggio says the rollers and guides should be changed out at 6250 miles routinely and then the belt at 9000 miles, that's two lots of separate transmission work. So in view of my rollers always still being fine at 6250 miles, I decided to change out belt, rollers and guides all at 7500-8000 miles. So doing the job just once, therefore half the labour and you get a bike that is always performing at it's best. It also creates less wear on the variator shaft threads, a common cause of scooters with auto tranny being dumped when those threads fail due to wear. Many GTS250/300 bikes get to 75-80000+ miles only to find the crank threads are worn out and you cannot secure the variator nut. It usually means a complete strip and new crankshaft. Doing it my way halves the crankshaft thread wear at the variator. However, even replacing the crank on the GTS300 is not hard if you can diy fairly competently. The engines are true gems!

Re: Best choice
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:15 pm
by 2wheelover51
Well I'm leaving a deposit on a 2012 Burgman 400 tomorrow. Not sure when I'll be able to ride up and get it with lockdown seemingly never-ending.
I've been given a decent PX price on my CBF and the Burgmans had a big service last year with a new belt.
I'm getting it from J&S in Northwhich. It looks clean and tidy and has handguards but no topbox. I can't see me needing the extra space anyway. So, hopefully will be a "proper Muppet" soon!

Re: Best choice
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:55 pm
by Red Dog
Nice one. Hope to bump into you when we escape covid.
Re: Best choice
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:54 pm
by riders in the storm
Yeah, just looking at the advert, it looks a nice bike that......
Re: Best choice
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:38 pm
by Stibbs
Re: Best choice
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:25 am
by Data
Excellent, you won't be disapointed I'm sure. Photo's to follow I hope once you get here!
Re: Best choice
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:15 pm
by 2wheelover51
Many thanks for all the kind wishes.
Peter.
Re: Best choice
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:05 pm
by 2wheelover51
I was wondering if there is information somewhere here on Burgman 400 model numbers?
I think my 2012 abs version with handguards and pillion backrest in gray is a AN400Z. Would I be correct? This was after a discussion with Swinton about what model I had (or will have) she said is it an AN400 or a Burgman 400 ABS?? I told her what I knew but wondered where I would find out the model designation.
Re: Best choice
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:12 am
by MrGrumpy
AN400 is the model code for the 400 Burger, don't know about the Z, though that rings a bell. Your handbook will most likely mention the model code. I think the Swinton person is getting confused - Japanese scoots seem to usuallly have a model name and a code, so your scoot is both a Burgman 400 and an AN400, the way a Tmax is both a Tmax and an XP500 (or 530 or 560). Its pretty random whether lists of scoots on databases list the model or code, or both.
I was under the impression that also Suzuki used K year codes - ie the 2012 version would be the AN400 K12.
Re: Best choice
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:25 am
by Data
My 2012 Burgman 400 was a 400z model, a K12. It had the hand guards, back rest and ABS brakes. IRC it will have an identification plate on the bike, probably buried under the plastic showing VIN and all the bike details. Also the V5 should show some further information. Again, from memory, I think Suzuki dropped the 'AN' designation just calling it the 400z abs.