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Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:51 am
by Deeping
What the expletive is professional indemnity insurance, what’s more do I need it to add comments on this forum?
It is just a forum ain’t it, you know – personal opinions and things like that.
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:00 am
by Bluebottle
Deeping wrote:It is just a forum ain’t it,
Are you qualified to make such a philosophical judgement?
I will carefully word my response to make it sound like I once worked for Aristotle and demand to see your typing insurance
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:06 am
by Deeping
Bluebottle wrote:Deeping wrote:It is just a forum ain’t it,
Are you qualified to make such a philosophical judgement?
I will carefully word my response to make it sound like I once worked for Aristotle and demand to see your typing insurance

Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:17 pm
by SpikeOne
I am Aristotle!
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:32 pm
by StephenC
Loving this thread.
As a long time civil servant this argument is right up my street.
Principles I try to abide by:
- sit on the fence as long as possible. The other side may crack first.
- only say something is "certain" once it has already happened
- personal views should be carefully crafted to look like facts but not actually say they that they are such
- use only widely accepted authoritative sources for "facts"
- only ever answer the question you wanted to be asked
- use statistics very selectively but be ready for the rest to come out
- put as much effort into understanding the opposition's argument as you put into constructing your own.
- never reveal all your cards at once. Retain a multi-layer defence
- never insult someone except in jest. You might need them one day.
Now, please continue.

Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:13 pm
by MrGrumpy
StephenC wrote:Loving this thread.
As a long time civil servant this argument is right up my street.
Principles I try to abide by:
- sit on the fence as long as possible. The other side may crack first.
- only say something is "certain" once it has already happened
- personal views should be carefully crafted to look like facts but not actually say they that they are such
- use only widely accepted authoritative sources for "facts"
- only ever answer the question you wanted to be asked
- use statistics very selectively but be ready for the rest to come out
- put as much effort into understanding the opposition's argument as you put into constructing your own.
- never reveal all your cards at once. Retain a multi-layer defence
- never insult someone except in jest. You might need them one day.
There is also the Civil Service technique of making crucial words ambiguous. A classic example (though not actually from a civil servant) was the recent Libor/ Barclays scandal, where someone wrote an e-mail to say that Libor rates
need not be so high....whatever 'need' might mean in that instance.
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:15 pm
by Deeping
SpikeOne wrote:I am Aristotle!
I am Aristotle and so is my wife
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:29 pm
by Lou
StephenC wrote:Loving this thread.
As a long time civil servant this argument is right up my street.
Principles I try to abide by:
- sit on the fence as long as possible. The other side may crack first.
- only say something is "certain" once it has already happened
- personal views should be carefully crafted to look like facts but not actually say they that they are such
- use only widely accepted authoritative sources for "facts"
- only ever answer the question you wanted to be asked
- use statistics very selectively but be ready for the rest to come out
- put as much effort into understanding the opposition's argument as you put into constructing your own.
- never reveal all your cards at once. Retain a multi-layer defence
- never insult someone except in jest. You might need them one day.
Now, please continue.

I like these principles very much and shall endevour to live my forum life by them, until I get annoyed/pissed/find my soapbox etc
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:53 pm
by Bluebottle
Deeping wrote:I am Aristotle and so is my wife
Do not challenge my wisdom. I was involved in the research and development that led to Aristotle and his wife of the same name.
(Ok, I was outside sat on the donkey checking the number of ears it had, but I only said involved, not my fault if you thought something different. )
Re: Thoughts on braking
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:05 pm
by gn2
I hope you had the proper indemnity insurance for that donkey, viscious brutes they are, you wouldn't want it to be mauling some innocent children with its fangs and claws.