i fell off at 20 wearing an open face


im still as ugly as i was before

i wear them as i like them i have had flip up and i wear full face normally but each to there own

I have a Nolan N43 air. It has a removable chinguard that converts it to an open face in seconds. In hot weather I use the open face with T-shirt, shorts and flip-flops or trainers if going local. I'm 54 years old? I know and accept the risks. My choice.

I am of the opinion that if you know and accept the consequences, you can wear whatever you want. I have a friend that works in the ER and refers to everybody with a motorbike licence as an organ donor. Full face or not.


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That Airoh helmet that failed, just goes to prove that cheaper helmets are crap.... the Schuberth C3 has been tested and found to be as good as a full face. You pays your money, and as Meldrew said its helmet make as much as type.

jjprivate wrote:...I think regarding protection the links of a flipup are a weak point.

As BarryG just said - depends on the helmet.

One of the reasons I chose a Nolan N90 was that the chinguard stayed shut in 100% of the Sharp tests - better than the Schuberth C3 managed


There is always going to be a structural difference but a well made design with a metal latching system makes those differences very small.
Having said that, If I had to wear a budget lid I would trust the full face over the flip

Bluebottle wrote:

jjprivate wrote:.

One of the reasons I chose a Nolan N90 was that the chinguard stayed shut in 100% of the Sharp tests - better than the Schuberth C3 managed

Yeah...I've looked at those results and wondered if they measure anything useful....The snag is that (as far as I can gather), they aren't a test of the flip mechanism itself, but a record of whether the flip opens in the other tests. I've no idea whether that is relevant or not. To an extent the advantage of a full face helmet is that gives you protection in the chin area in an impact and the question is whether the flip up chin piece will give you the same impact protection as a full face helmet. For instance the Shark Evoline chin piece appears to be just a thin piece of plastic which gives me no confidence at all in its impact resisting qualities.....

Meldrew wrote:Do you know I've been riding nearly 40 years now and I don't anyone who's suffered facial injuries from wearing an open face, yet every time this topic comes up there's the inevitable post from someone who knows someone who has. Whether it's true or whether it's just said to get their point across I don't know, but I suspect it's the latter.

You do talk some bollox sometimes Meldrew....I know that when I had my big accident I hit the deck face down. The visor was ripped off, and you could see impressions of my teeth on the soft parts of my full face Arai chin piece! With an open face helmet that would have been my face hitting the deck, hard. God knows what injuries & disfigurements that would have caused.

If you think I'm making that up to make a point, that's your problem not mine.

Meldrew wrote:Do you know I've been riding nearly 40 years now and I don't anyone who's suffered facial injuries from wearing an open face, yet every time this topic comes up there's the inevitable post from someone who knows someone who has. Whether it's true or whether it's just said to get their point across I don't know, but I suspect it's the latter.

In my case it's 100% true.
I was following another bike when it collided with roadwork bollards on a motorway doing about 80mph.
The rider and pillion came off and bounced down the road a bit.
The pillion passenger was wearing an open face lid and his face was a bloody mess.

I've long been an advocate of requiring folks to learn how to ride off-road, in the dirt. You are almost assured to fall off repeatedly and you learn how to fall - tucking your hands and your chin, coming down on your back instead of on your face. If you say that you can't possibly be ready for an abrupt get-off, watch the pro road racers. How often do they crash, pop up, and try to get back on their bikes? It's because they know how to get off. For instance, they don't put out their hands to 'stop' their fall, thus breaking their wrists and their collar bones. Not always, it's true, but an amazing percentage of the time.

I was in no way having a go at open face helmets, like it has been pointed out it's up to you what you wear. I own a 'Simpson Bandit Outlaw' (discuss PMSFL) All my original post was about was the state of Joe's full face helmet after he went down the road in it, and he himself said "Thank f**k I wasn't earing my p***pot helmet".