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Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:15 pm
by Ralph
American riders seem to report longer tyre life than the UK if this is due
to different tyre construction, the roads or how they ride, or something else
I haven't a clue.

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:34 pm
by MrGrumpy
One's impression of American roads is long straight ones with no corners, so you'd assume that if you were building a tyre for the US market, a harder construction for longer life at the expense of corner grip would be sensible! Also the range of temperatures is more extreme than the UK.

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:52 pm
by Ralph
I really don't know, though I have seen one or two pics showing the tyre cord
so maybe they are willing to live a bit more dangerously, radals on bikes seem to
last longer than cross plies though I have not had radials on a scooter yet my Burgman
was a 2000 mod that had the same size tyre as the Silverwing but the two were slightly
different maybe due to the Honda having a bit more go.

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:20 pm
by The Bern
Also a lot of American SilverWing riders seem to favour fitting a 155/70 r 13 car tyre to the rear, I think longevity/milage figures from the other side of the watery divide can been taken with a large dash of salt

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:35 pm
by MrGrumpy
The Bern wrote:Also a lot of American SilverWing riders seem to favour fitting a 155/70 r 13 car tyre to the rear, I think longevity/milage figures from the other side of the watery divide can been taken with a large dash of salt
A ploy employed by Burgman 650 riders as well. I guess its OK if you don't want to go round corners!

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:45 pm
by Davefirestorm
And I guess also not legal or at least would void your insurance

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:16 am
by MrGrumpy
Davefirestorm wrote:And I guess also not legal or at least would void your insurance
Not sure about being formally legal or not - would a car tyre pass the MoT?? It certainly would be an unsuitable tyre, and insurance companies will find any excuse - real or imagined - not to pay out in a accident.

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:34 pm
by The Bern
MrGrumpy wrote:
Davefirestorm wrote:And I guess also not legal or at least would void your insurance
Not sure about being formally legal or not - would a car tyre pass the MoT?? It certainly would be an unsuitable tyre, and insurance companies will find any excuse - real or imagined - not to pay out in a accident.
I'm fairly sure modern motorcycle tyres all have M/C cast into the sidewall markings to show type approval, so I guess without the marking it would be an MoT failure

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:06 pm
by The Bern
Yep, car tyre would fail .....

2.3 Wheels and tyres

These will be inspected to check:

their condition
that they’re secure
the size and type
correct fitment
the tread depth
the valve condition

Taken from .... https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -at-an-mot

Re: New tyres pirelli Diablo Rosso scooter radial

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:56 pm
by MrGrumpy
The Bern wrote:Yep, car tyre would fail .....

2.3 Wheels and tyres

These will be inspected to check:

their condition
that they’re secure
the size and type
correct fitment
the tread depth
the valve condition

Taken from .... https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -at-an-mot
Yes, if you follow the link on there to the proper inspection manual, section 4.1 says that 'Unsuitable' tyres include (in section a) 'Car tyres on a solo machine' - so that is pretty specific!