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Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:48 am
by mottza
£60/hour isn't horrendous if includes VAT.
Break it down...
£48 pre VAT
Wages
NI
and all the the other overheads within the business.
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:23 pm
by Maxman
mottza wrote:£60/hour isn't horrendous
£48 pre VAT
The other £60 for parts (2.6 litres of engine oil) is though.
Plus you've just failed your maths test.
Re: New 400 Burgman
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:55 pm
by Steve_D
Data wrote:Oops...my speiling is bad!

I mean 'viscious'. Hopefully he doesn't have bumps like that!
Or even 'vicious'.

Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:20 pm
by Data
Damn and blast! It weren't me, is wus me spell chucker...

Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:13 pm
by wuffstuff
At the third attempt the 'service' department finally managed to get the topbox fitted. Now I can go the big city tomorrow with all my gear loaded. I've fitted the Tomtom Rider gadget onto the left hand brake fluid thingy and I'm ready to rock.
My work journey will take me to Portsmouth, up the A3 to the City, and then out to the Olympic Village. Staying overnight in Finchley and then visiting clients in Marylebone, Notting HIll and the KIngs Road on Day 2. The forecast is good so this is another adventure to look forward to.
By the way, after the first service (600 miles) the scoot feels much better. The throttle response is much improved and it is silky smooth through the gears. Definitely a different experience to the 400.
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:03 pm
by Data
Hi Wuffstuff, keep the posts coming. It's interesting to know how you are getting on. I'm pleased you like the bike. I like it too. Nice to ride and it shouldn't give you any problems depending how long you keep it. It was a number of things that put me off buying one though, mostly to do with cost of purchase and servicing which are pretty hefty as you say. Wait until the higher mileage services come around! It's defo a diy'er for many if cash is important. It's very time consuming to do the servicing on it properly as per the book. When I was trying to decide which bike to buy, a new DL1000 or 650 Burgman, it was a no brainer at the time as the DL1000 required less than half the workshop time over the Burgman for servicing in the first 4 years. At the time cash was important and so I went with the DL1000K8GT which was very cheap to run and considerable fun too. I saved about £1200 in service costs alone. I used to do a job that required me to travel and use the bike a lot and downtime needed to be minimal. I had no time to be a diy'er. But those costs aside...it's a great bike and you are going to have some good fun on it. How is the fuel economy working out?
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:13 pm
by wuffstuff
Thanks for the support Data.
As mentioned, I've been a biker all my life but now I can't get the old hips over a bike frame so a scoot is really the only way to keep me on two wheels. As a long time businessman I have enough money not to worry about the costs of either purchase or servicing but I'm still shocked at the cost of servicing the Burgman. For fuel economy - I need to have look at monitoring once I work out all the speedo options (which seem complicated for an old git).
I'll update less frequently now I'm up and running, as I have no idea of what to say unless something happens. Thanks for listening though.
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:06 pm
by bornagainbiker
wuffstuff - Do not rely on the on-board mpg figures given. My Trip 1 has never been reset so my 3100 miles says 48.6mpg when in reality it's 57.9mpg always full to full (see my Fuelly) and I use Trip 2 for all of my fuel ups. Why the on-board calculations are so far out is unknown?
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:24 pm
by gn2
bornagainbiker wrote:wuffstuff - Do not rely on the on-board mpg figures given. My Trip 1 has never been reset so my 3100 miles says 48.6mpg when in reality it's 57.9mpg always full to full (see my Fuelly) and I use Trip 2 for all of my fuel ups. Why the on-board calculations are so far out is unknown?
Looks like the computer doesn't know about proper British imperial gallons.
48.6 miles to the pathetic short measured US gallon = 58.37 miles to the real gallon.
Re: Was new 400 Burgman, now new 650 Exec.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:48 pm
by bornagainbiker
gn2 wrote:bornagainbiker wrote:wuffstuff - Do not rely on the on-board mpg figures given. My Trip 1 has never been reset so my 3100 miles says 48.6mpg when in reality it's 57.9mpg always full to full (see my Fuelly) and I use Trip 2 for all of my fuel ups. Why the on-board calculations are so far out is unknown?
Looks like the computer doesn't know about proper British imperial gallons.
48.6 miles to the pathetic short measured US gallon = 58.37 miles to the real gallon.
Yes that's what I thought but the system has km/L and L/100km with MPG IMP and MPG US.
The fuel consumption meter is set to MPG IMP. When you change it to MPG US it reduces from 48.6 to 40.2? Hence that's why Suzuki America say 38MPG is their figure?