New fuel

[Mr Angry]

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The powers that be over in Europe are once again making changes that will affect bikers over here in the UK. Under an EU directive a much more diluted petrol will be released in the country along side normal petrol. The E10 strand is 10% ethanol compared to the 5% it stands at the moment.
This is where the problems arise for bikers. Motorcycle manufacturers have warned that this diluted petrol is not compatible with many older machines and even motorbikes a mere two years old. Components that could be damaged are petrol pipes, carburettor innards and petrol tank sealants, as well as affecting the running of the bike.
As long as 'normal' petrol is still available at the pumps for now bikers will be safe. But if things change and this E10 strand becomes the only petrol available, many motorcycles could be left destroyed or un-usable because of it.

[Ferrit]

Hydrous ethanol corrosion
High alcohol fuel blends are reputed to cause corrosion of aluminum fuel system components. However, studies indicate that the addition of water to the high alcohol fuel blends helps prevent corrosion. This is shown in SAE paper 2005-01-3708 Appendix 1.2 where gasoline/alcohol blends of E50, nP50,IP50 nB50, IB50 were tested on steel, copper, nickel, zinc, tin and three types of aluminum. The tests showed that when the water content was increased from 2000ppm to 1%, corrosion was no longer evident except some materials showed discolouration.
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America has had 10% since 2011 and Brazil has 50% mix.

[johnp]

Just like when they got rid of 4 star petrol as my old Lotus would not of run on unleaded so every time i filled up i had to put an additive into the tank so the car could run.

[alicethomas]

No panic!
I have used E35 (mixed 1xE85 and 2xE10) in my MBK Doodo during summer, E10 during winter.
E10 is common in France, Germany etc.; E85 esp. in Scandinavia, but also in France, Germany etc.; Brasilia uses E25, there is no E(<25) available. ...
There are many detailed lists from the manufacturers (Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kymco, Piaggio, ...) which model is E10 proved. Just one example: http://motorrad.suzuki.de/fileadmin/use ... 101104.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the first sentences: Every model >=2002 is E10 compatible.
One of the last sentences: Usage of E10 is possible for not listed models (>=1992) too. But longer storage (>1 month) should be done with E5.

[Bluebottle]

Here is an easy list of the materials ethanol does/doesn't play nicely with http://iqlearningsystems.com/ethanol/downloads/Ethanol%20&%20E85%20Material%20Compatibility.pdf

Like everybody said, Modern engines will take it in their stride and should run cleaner. There are debates over mpg, cold weather and politics.

[R1K SU]

So is this the diluted crap they have in the states ? it makes cars more sluggish as its only something like 89% petrol not the 95-98% we get here in UK , or is the Ethonol a good go faster mix

[alicethomas]

Depends on what your engine is optimized for. Ethanol has a much higher octane rating and burns cooler than petrol. You can make the engine more powerful (but then they can't easily use petrol).
Anyway Ethanol has less BTU than petrol, you will need more fuel.

[Ferrit]

The old Model T Ford managed on petrol ethanol mix.

[Bluebottle]

Didn't Ford's first engines run on pure ethanol?

I think the T you can run on paraffin too.

[sad vampire]

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My Atlantic 500 isn't compatible with E10