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S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:07 pm
by primalcarl
Hi all

I want to do some basics to my '08 Honda S-Wing 125. I've picked up a copy of the Haynes manual for it. Where is the best place to buy parts needed for a service?

As for the oil, my local Halfords only seem to do Castrol Power 10w/30, looks marketed at sports bikes but is it ok in an S-wing?

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:24 pm
by Dave Weller
The oil will be fine, you can use most oils, as you don't have a clutch to worry about.
I would buy proper Honda parts from a Honda dealer (ebay), keep receipt, as proof of using original equipment parts, Honda tend to price parts according to the size of bike, so for a 125 they are cheapish, ie a belt under £30

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:36 pm
by michaelphillips
primalcarl wrote:Hi all

I want to do some basics to my '08 Honda S-Wing 125. I've picked up a copy of the Haynes manual for it. Where is the best place to buy parts needed for a service?

As for the oil, my local Halfords only seem to do Castrol Power 10w/30, looks marketed at sports bikes but is it ok in an S-wing?
and will probably cost a fortune... you need SAE 10W-30 standard MB on the label, how many ml or litres do you need :?: , have a good look around, my local tesco supermarket does fully synthetic 2 litres for a tenner, so dont overpay for fully synthetic oil, it wont be in there that long
Do not use API SH or higher oils displaying
a circular API ‘‘energy conserving’’ service
label on the container. They may affect
lubrication :D

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:49 pm
by primalcarl
Have seen these 'kits' on Ebay, what do you think price-wise? The oil in Halfords is £12.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271049388151? ... 1438.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:54 pm
by michaelphillips
primalcarl wrote:Have seen these 'kits' on Ebay, what do you think price-wise? The oil in Halfords is £12.99

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271049388151? ... 1438.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
if you were ordering items separate then the cost for each will probably be the same or greater, so to get what you need all in one place makes your task easier, so yes good find mate :D

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:59 pm
by gn2
I bought a PCX service kit from that ebay seller, genuine honda parts and top quality oil.
Delivery was two days.
Would definitely use them again.

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:19 am
by Dave Weller
That's where I got my service parts from, you get an invoice to show that you have used proper Honda parts.

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:22 am
by Data
Not trying to start an oil thread, but if you want you engine to go and go I would suggest using a fully syn oil. There is a difference and many advantages. On a 125, the cost is not an issue as there is so little of it. These 125's work hard revving very high and the oil gets very very hot. Cheap lower grade mineral and many semi oils 'damage' very easily. They 'shred' their molecular chains very early and of course never recover, just allowing much more engine wear to take hold, which in turn makes the engine run even hotter. It was driven home to me last year when we were benching some engines on different oils. We called in the oil boffins for help solving particular wear patterns and we solved it by using a particular fully syn oil, which incidentally gave us between 5-6% more power at fully throttle due to less friction. Fully syn reduces wear to virtually zero in mostly all engines. Just my two pence worth... ;)

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:45 am
by michaelphillips
Data wrote:Not trying to start an oil thread, but if you want you engine to go and go I would suggest using a fully syn oil. There is a difference and many advantages. On a 125, the cost is not an issue as there is so little of it. These 125's work hard revving very high and the oil gets very very hot. Cheap lower grade mineral and many semi oils 'damage' very easily. They 'shred' their molecular chains very early and of course never recover, just allowing much more engine wear to take hold, which in turn makes the engine run even hotter. It was driven home to me last year when we were benching some engines on different oils. We called in the oil boffins for help solving particular wear patterns and we solved it by using a particular fully syn oil, which incidentally gave us between 5-6% more power at fully throttle due to less friction. Fully syn reduces wear to virtually zero in mostly all engines. Just my two pence worth... ;)
cheers for that Data, so in the kit he proposes to buy, it is Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T 10W30 Fully Synthetic Motorcycle Oil - 1 Litre

so he should be ok :D

Fully Synthetic 4-stroke engine oil with Trizone Technology, exceeds JASO MA-2 and API SJ.

Castrol Motorcycle Engine Oil Product Features.
* Fully synthetic 4-stroke motorcycle engine oil
* Trizone Technology
* Tested to the extreme of temperature and engine conditions
* Extreme high temperature air-cooled and water-cooled
engine performance.
* Enhanced throttle response for faster acceleration
* Excellent high speed oil consumption control and volatility
* Excellent shear stability to prevent viscosity break down
* Complies with requirements of catalyst equipped engines.

Ultimate Performance for Extreme Riding on road and track
* Castrol Power 1 Racing is a FULLY SYNTHETIC 4-stroke engine oil for Sport, Super Sport and Race Replica motorcycles from leading European and Japanese manufacturers.
* 10W-30 and 10W-40 variants are aimed at latest Japanese models.
* Castrol Power 1 Racing employs the very latest Trizone Technology that gives optimum protection to the engine, clutch and gears even under the most arduous conditions, including sustained operations at high rpm.

Increased Acceleration
Castrol Power 1 Racing , with its low friction formulation, has been shown to improve acceleration from rest to max speed by up to 6.5% compared to conventional engine oils, which potentially translates into an advantage of up to 5 bike lengths over 1.8 km distance as shown in the graph below.

Castrol Oil is used by customers of leading motorcycle manufacturers like Aprilia, BMW, Cagiva Mito, Ducati, Indian Chief, Kawasaki, Honda, Harley Davidson, Moto Gazzi, Moto Morini, Norton, Royal Enfield, Piaggio, Suzuki, Triumph Thunderbird, Victory, Yamaha all use and most recommend Castrol Motorcycle Engine Oils.

Re: S-wing servicing and parts

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:48 am
by poldark
Sorry but the photo in the EBay listing is Power 1, not Power 1 Racing, so semi-synth.

Are you sure they ship Racing - can GN2 confirm?