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malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:32 pm
by Deleted User 1756
Hi I have a SYM citycom 300 and was thinking of fitting a Malossi Multivar 2000 kit to it,can anyone tell me if they have put one on a SYM 300 and how much difference it has made.I had one fitted to a 400 burgman back in 2001 and it made a hell of a change to the bike but will it do the same to a smaller engine.
Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:54 pm
by Funkycowie
Or you could try Dr Pulley rollers instead and I highly recommend getting the sliders with it as they are made of the same material,
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Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:53 pm
by michaelphillips
Funkycowie wrote:Or you could try Dr Pulley rollers instead and I highly recommend getting the sliders with it as they are made of the same material,
http://www.drpulley.info/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
as funky states...

a 300cc scoot is high revving, yet your rollers are quite large anyways, 25x22.5 as your variator only uses 6 rollers, so you would benefit from slighty less roller weight, say 16 gms... ( sorry they dont do the sliders , acording to the list))why change and pay for another variator which just uses lower weights to achieve slighty higher revs, think your standard weights are as this..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scooter-Drive ... 2ed3710f06" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
same size as the nexus 500 took yet lower weight.. dr pulleys at 16gms are about £50 .. so how much is the Malossi Multivar 2000

shame they dont have a hit clutch, for your scoot as your engine is revvy and sending the power to the back wheel, yet the clutch is scrubbing off the forward speed with slip.. best looking at lower rpm clutch springs so you scoot fully engages clutch at lower rpm

Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:40 pm
by anonstarter
Howdy Mister Spindal!
I've not been tempted to install the Malossi Multivar 2000 kit, but I have installed 17G Dr Pulley Sliders. With a brand new genuine belt it took off like a scolded cat in comparison to the stock 18G rollers.
The trade off(?) is 7000rpm = 70mph, 8000rpm = 80mph & 9000rpm = 90mph - but only on the flat!
I remember reading this from Globs, who has the same engine (with a different ECU?) in his SYM GTS300i:
Globs wrote:The SYM GTS300 Voyager... Rev limit is 7500rpm o the GTS, not the 8500rpm on the Citycom despite the being exactly the same engine.
----- this means you might want to fit 19g Dr Pulley sliders. You get better acceleration and much better top speed and mpg.
The rev limiter on my Citycom cuts in at 9000rpm. Is yours the same?
Globs wrote:...My 263cc SYM GTS300i evo had the very same issue when I bought it (new) - not much use at highway speeds and needing to rev it close to the redline. What I did was change to taller gearing by installing 19g Dr Pulley sliders - which actually gave me more push off the line - but also meant that 125kmh is now revving around 7,000rpm - about midway between peak torque and peak power (24hp).
Now top speed at the rev limit is just over 140kmh and the cruise is more relaxed and economical...
http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/vie ... 5&#p198215" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dr Pulleys are definitely worth considering - if you haven't tried them already.
Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:51 pm
by michaelphillips
anonstarter

so you saying if you want more take off speed go for 17gms, and better lower revs at speed then go for 19gms
sounds good advise lad

Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:15 pm
by anonstarter
That's persactly what I was trying to say Mister Phillips! Did you notice I had the 17G Dr Pulleys installed on our Hertfordshire rideout?

Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:01 am
by michaelphillips
anonstarter wrote:That's persactly what I was trying to say Mister Phillips! Did you notice I had the 17G Dr Pulleys installed on our Hertfordshire rideout?

yer lad i did... you dont hang about kid

see you are living proof to get the 17gm rollers

Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:39 am
by Deleted User 1756
Wow,now I am in a pickle.Dont know what to do now,17g or 19g sliders, will a clutch spring help with the take off if I put the 19g sliders in,that way I might get the best of both worlds high revs at the take off and low cruising revs.Anonstarter,I dont think my rev limiter has ever cut in.I see Malossi springs are sold separately in two colours,white and yellow are these different strengths.By the way thanks for all the help guys it is certainly is a minefield once you start to tweek your scooter.
Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:36 am
by anonstarter
I'm not sure about the clutch spring. There are some cleverer muppets on here that might offer a better insight.
What I believe is the Dr Pulley choice boils down to this:
If you want to blast away with faster acceleration (and wonder what a rev limiter feels like @ 9000rpm - "90"mph) go for 17G!
If you want slightly better acceleration, lower rev's (~ 500rpm ), more cruising refinement and better mpg, go for 19G!
Re: malossi multivar 2000
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:52 am
by Deleted User 1756
Anonstarter,How much quicker do you think your bike is now with the 17g sliders, and are you happy with it or do you think it revs just a bit to much.I do a lot of local up and down hills and my average trip is about 15miles but now and then do a motorway trip to Cardiff of about 80 miles.