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Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:24 am
by Tonybmw92
Hi All
I have recently purchased a Burgman AN400
High mileage 66.000
2001
The seller advised me when on route to view the bike that the bike had a "Starter Clutch" Problem and as a result would have trouble starting.He said he would allow £150 of the price which was 950 so I got it for 800.I took it to a mechanic in central London where I work and he diagnosed the starting problem (corroded choke) and fixed it for £50 but at the same time suggested I needed the bearings looking at on the left hand side at the back and then demonstrated on another Burgman the knocking sound when running the engine on centre stand revving the engine and as the wheel slows makes a knocking noise.Admitadely I thought as the noise had always been there and so thought it was normal.Anyway it's 4 sets of bearings I need in there and some oil lube etc and the bill including 2 and a half hours totalled £284 so I approached the chap I purchased the bike as I was advised it was unsafe.he didn't return calls or texts at first but on speaking to him he said its your problem basically.i was hoping as it wasn't the original described problem he would give me something towards it.unfortunately I'm stuck with the bike.So I need advice on the bearings and replacing them and can someone recommend somewhere in Kent or down south I can take it to that won't rip me off.Im quite happy to have a go myself at most stuff but can't find a clear video that shows those bearings.
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:42 am
by kayz1
Jaz put a link on here to a burgman 400 manual, sorry i do not have one myself, but do not fret some burgerman will be along soon to help you.
Lyn.
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:33 am
by victor
have you looked on you tube there are some very good videos showing you most things. le dude are the best
just type in Suzuki burgman
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:39 am
by Data
Hello Tony, congrats on getting a Burgman, but sorry you have a bearing problem. I'm not completely clear as to which bearings you are talking about. But I'm assuming these are tranny bearings in the final drive gearbox as you mention oil is needed. If that's the case it's no big deal and is an easy diy job if you have the tools, a workshop manual, and some relevant simple diy experience. You can buy a Haynes manual online (Amazon) for around £16-£18 and it's well worth it if you are not mechanically competent (or even if you are). The one manual covers all Burgman 400's. By the way, there are six bearings in the gearbox that may be needing replacement. There is an idler gear that sits between the clutch input and gearbox output shafts. If those bearings are worn then again that could be dangerous. If the others are worn then it's probable those too will need replacing. Cost is nominal.
Changing the bearings is not difficult and there is little need for any force to be used. A complete final drive strip is carried out with the engine in situ and it's not hard. Tranny case removal, clutch off (ideal time to clean it out). Drain tranny oil, undo the gearbox case bolts and take the shafts and case apart. It's very simple indeed. Bearings are easy to remove with a heat gun (one used for stripping paint is ideal). They just drop out once the case is heated. Use the heat gun to gently heat the cases to let the new bearings drop back in. Put the new bearings in the freezer first, for three to four hours or overnight if you can. Heat the case/s before fitting and then drop the bearings in. Only the slightest tap with a wooden block and rubber mallet should be required to make sure the bearings are fully home. New tranny gasket set and seals will be required too. The great thing about a Burgman 400 is that you can keep them going pretty much forever! And they are not too expensive to work on.
Just a cautionary note: make sure the transmission shafts are in good condition before refitting. They get noisy if worn. Later this year I will be replacing some gearbox bearings in a very old Burgman 400 with near 95,000 miles on the clock. It's a carbed bike that I changed the engine on sometime ago. That 'new' engine I fitted already had some 70,000 miles on the clock and now it's done another 29,000 miles in two years!! I'll try and post photo's of the procedure as I do it. But it won't be until summer. I'm recovering from having been in hospital which is holding things up a bit!
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:48 am
by Deleted User 4154
kayz1 wrote:Jaz put a link on here to a burgman 400 manual, sorry i do not have one myself, but do not fret some burgerman will be along soon to help you.
Lyn.
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/562r7 ... 400650.zip
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:30 pm
by Tonybmw92
Wow thanks guys im so grateful for you help and many thanks for very detailed explanation I really like the bike as does my wife and I want to keep it. I will look at the manual and hopefully have a go in the next couple of weeks. Is there a good place you recommend for parts on-line?.If the job is to difficult or I don't feel confident how much would you expect to be charged for a job like this or roughly how long does the procedure take?.Is there anywhere in either central london or a short drive within (60 miles) from Orpington,Kent i could take the bike?
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:20 pm
by Dave Weller
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:51 pm
by Deleted User 4154
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:27 pm
by Tonybmw92
Well i went and visited Dave and he basically said that its not as straight forward as just some bearings it could be loads of problems in there and once you start working on one thing you find other problems so it would be better to return the bike. Problem is the guy i bought it off is non responsive to calls texts suddenly becomes not available (Funny That) he was more than accommodating when he was selling it. So i have to wait for the DVLA to send through docs and once i have his address i will pay him a visit.Its a shame i dont have more knowledge on the bike and knew how to take it apart but as dave said i could end up paying out as much as what the bike was sold to me for. So to say im fed up is a massive understatement. I appreciate bout the bike in good faith sold as seen blah blah blah but im not being taken for a mug.
Re: Help!,,,
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:20 pm
by Steve_D
If you bought it privately, I don't think you'll really have a leg to stand on. If he was a trader however, you stand a chance. If his name is not in the log book, contact the last registered keeper to see how he came to dispose of it and then you may be able to prove that the person you bought it from was a dealer - even if he was a 'part time' one, you might have a chance. Good luck.
If you've recently bought it, how come you don't already know his address??? Please don't tell me you 'met him halfway' in a motorway service station or similar.
