Maxsym 600 review and burgman 400 comparison
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:43 am
2014 ms 600 30000km.
Im a realist. I say it as it is . Will not downplay anything
Pros
-decent suspension. If you ride 2up it will feel comfortable
-great design of dashboard. Looks modern
-quite strong for a single 565cc thumper engine
-braking power is good. Even replacing pads should be quite a simple task as they can be swapped out fast. Though ill take mine apart for a thorough clean and regrease of key areas. No vibrations as some have complained about
-standing/open acceleration is fine. Top end ia very adequate. I tested it to 150kph(I Didnt care to push it more) with little effort. Im not a speed junky and drive calm regularly at 110kph by dash indicated
-seating position is quite low. Useful to wide range of heights
Negatives.
-handling not as good as b400. Rides "clumsy"
-brutal/harsh/rough on how it accelerates(not the power but how it delivers it) very rough and jerky drive
Francesco on yt made videos and noted it as well
Ill replace with sliders and see if that cures it. Its not elegant in its linearity of power. Like an old american carb car vs a japanese car with sensors thats tweaked for smoothness.
--under seat space is storage is good. I haven't tried 2 ff helmets under the seat because I carry tools with me. I do have a 48L rear box. The b400 clearly has much more underseat space. but the ms is no slouch vs tmax/gp800 which both have very little extra space
-dashlights, specifically turn signal indicators are not legible during the day. Nope. Bad.
- hands to handlebar to elbow angle is too high. Im 183cm. My elbows are too low and hands too high
-backrest is large but too high. Either should be higher or lower
-as much as its a large scooter my shins are up against glove box with legs extended . Didnt make.proper use of space imo
-cheap quality plastics vs japanese. Very noticeable
-rust on exhuast from only 30000km.
-front fascia design is meh. Rear is designed quite nicely. This is opposite of the burgman 400(b400) which really has a beautiful front and boring rear(2007-2017). But looks is a personal thing
-Headlights could be stronger. I think ill have to adjust mine up more. Id like to add a 7" lightbar to front face somehow
-windhshield has easy tendency to fade and yellow.
-b400 has foot rests for pillion rider. Ms600 has fold out pegs. Lady does not like the pegs
-large maintenance (cvt) is done every 18000km vs b400 24000km.
-a lot more info and support on forums for b400 vs ms 600
I think the b400 is a more refined scoot vs the ms600. The quality in build is very obvious. Parts availability for b400 is much cheaper and easily available. The burgmans have been out for many years and have had time to tweak it. Considering the ms is a Taiwanese scooter, its surprising parts are so high. So you pay upfront less with the ms600 but parts will cost more for maintenance parts . Belt rollers filters pulleys (when needeed)etc.
b400 has terrible rear suspension.. very stiff vs ms600. I have a b400 thats at home . Will get an engine rebuild. Slowly ordering parts . Throttle body stva unit is huge design flaw. Hard to find just that part
My ms600 ia black matte color. Not a fan of matte paint. Matte finishes are harder.to maintain and look tired over a short time. Glossy paint can be revived with polishing.
Would have preferred anything glossy over matte but 3 months searching for either a ms600 or b400 and those b400 owners think theyre 50000mile burgs are some limited edition rolls and ask ridiculous prices. Theyre still on those classifieds boards.
Seat cushion is softer on ms600. Fabric quality on b400 is a tad better. Not a fan of the.rough textured feel of ms600. If and when it tears will re-upholster it with some carbon fiber vinyl
Would I recommend a maxsym 600? no. I think a b400 is a better buy but they have many known issues as well. Find one with low miles and youll be fine.
I will keep my ms600 and maintain it till the engine dies and if the body is in good physical shape will either find a donor engine from a crash or will rebuild it.
Apologies for my grammar mistake or sounding grumpy about the ms600. Its an ok scoot. 6/10. Not great but thats what i bought and will make it work. B400 is a 7.3/10 imo. It has a lot of known issues. Btw I do all my own maintenance work.
Please stay safe and healthy. Ride with your mind and keep that macho ego in check
Im a realist. I say it as it is . Will not downplay anything
Pros
-decent suspension. If you ride 2up it will feel comfortable
-great design of dashboard. Looks modern
-quite strong for a single 565cc thumper engine
-braking power is good. Even replacing pads should be quite a simple task as they can be swapped out fast. Though ill take mine apart for a thorough clean and regrease of key areas. No vibrations as some have complained about
-standing/open acceleration is fine. Top end ia very adequate. I tested it to 150kph(I Didnt care to push it more) with little effort. Im not a speed junky and drive calm regularly at 110kph by dash indicated
-seating position is quite low. Useful to wide range of heights
Negatives.
-handling not as good as b400. Rides "clumsy"
-brutal/harsh/rough on how it accelerates(not the power but how it delivers it) very rough and jerky drive
Francesco on yt made videos and noted it as well
Ill replace with sliders and see if that cures it. Its not elegant in its linearity of power. Like an old american carb car vs a japanese car with sensors thats tweaked for smoothness.
--under seat space is storage is good. I haven't tried 2 ff helmets under the seat because I carry tools with me. I do have a 48L rear box. The b400 clearly has much more underseat space. but the ms is no slouch vs tmax/gp800 which both have very little extra space
-dashlights, specifically turn signal indicators are not legible during the day. Nope. Bad.
- hands to handlebar to elbow angle is too high. Im 183cm. My elbows are too low and hands too high
-backrest is large but too high. Either should be higher or lower
-as much as its a large scooter my shins are up against glove box with legs extended . Didnt make.proper use of space imo
-cheap quality plastics vs japanese. Very noticeable
-rust on exhuast from only 30000km.
-front fascia design is meh. Rear is designed quite nicely. This is opposite of the burgman 400(b400) which really has a beautiful front and boring rear(2007-2017). But looks is a personal thing
-Headlights could be stronger. I think ill have to adjust mine up more. Id like to add a 7" lightbar to front face somehow
-windhshield has easy tendency to fade and yellow.
-b400 has foot rests for pillion rider. Ms600 has fold out pegs. Lady does not like the pegs
-large maintenance (cvt) is done every 18000km vs b400 24000km.
-a lot more info and support on forums for b400 vs ms 600
I think the b400 is a more refined scoot vs the ms600. The quality in build is very obvious. Parts availability for b400 is much cheaper and easily available. The burgmans have been out for many years and have had time to tweak it. Considering the ms is a Taiwanese scooter, its surprising parts are so high. So you pay upfront less with the ms600 but parts will cost more for maintenance parts . Belt rollers filters pulleys (when needeed)etc.
b400 has terrible rear suspension.. very stiff vs ms600. I have a b400 thats at home . Will get an engine rebuild. Slowly ordering parts . Throttle body stva unit is huge design flaw. Hard to find just that part
My ms600 ia black matte color. Not a fan of matte paint. Matte finishes are harder.to maintain and look tired over a short time. Glossy paint can be revived with polishing.
Would have preferred anything glossy over matte but 3 months searching for either a ms600 or b400 and those b400 owners think theyre 50000mile burgs are some limited edition rolls and ask ridiculous prices. Theyre still on those classifieds boards.
Seat cushion is softer on ms600. Fabric quality on b400 is a tad better. Not a fan of the.rough textured feel of ms600. If and when it tears will re-upholster it with some carbon fiber vinyl
Would I recommend a maxsym 600? no. I think a b400 is a better buy but they have many known issues as well. Find one with low miles and youll be fine.
I will keep my ms600 and maintain it till the engine dies and if the body is in good physical shape will either find a donor engine from a crash or will rebuild it.
Apologies for my grammar mistake or sounding grumpy about the ms600. Its an ok scoot. 6/10. Not great but thats what i bought and will make it work. B400 is a 7.3/10 imo. It has a lot of known issues. Btw I do all my own maintenance work.
Please stay safe and healthy. Ride with your mind and keep that macho ego in check