So picked up a white SYM Joymax Z+ 300 to replace my old 2016/euro 3 Joymax 300 that was written off a few months ago.

Impressed already only rode it 15miles back from the dealer and was pleased with the motor. Still the 278cc as used in my old Joymax but produces less power to comply with euro 5. But redline increased from 8000 to 8500rpm. But didn't feel tight at all all the way back. Hopefully it'll be even better when fully run in. According to manual peak torque is now at 5500rpm, was 6500rpm on Euro 3.

Whilst it's largely the same as before, same wheels, same storage 48L/two helmets, 12L tank. It's lost the fog lights and stop/start. Now has traction control not sure what use this will be as of yet. Dash is updated and far better to look at than the old one. Also shed some kg, around 10kg less, could notice this slight decrease in weight. Also as the mirrors are no longer stalks off the front bodywork but on the handlebars this makes the bike slimmer and actually means I can see behind better. Bodywork mirrors used to show mostly my shoulders.

Will give a more in depth review in a few months when It's fully run in.

By a very weird coincidence, there is a test of the Sym Joymax 300 in this month's MoreBikes mag, which dropped through my letterbox yesterday! Spooky! They quite liked it, but didn't sound blown away...

What price are they please

Drago, this is very good news! Well done. As time goes by let us know how it compares to your older model.

charles1976 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:52 am What price are they please

£5k (according to MoreBikes)

thought about this replace my old joymax, could I get any interest from any sym involved dealership in the london area NOT useless wouldnt reply to calls etc , not just one about 5 and I wanna spend money FFS

look at what happened on the BMW c400 x SE thread i joined from page 2 about - forget sym buy this

blows their stuff out of the water and BMW customer services ***** - sym take a hard look at yourselves