Got an MOT failure on my burger yesterday. Steering and brakes knackered. Anyway, shit happens. got the bill today, £150 parts, £400 Labour +vat. Still it’s back on the road and fixed. In seven years that’s the most spent so can’t really argue

Stibbs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 am Got an MOT failure on my burger yesterday. Steering and brakes knackered. Anyway, shit happens. got the bill today, £150 parts, £400 Labour +vat. Still it’s back on the road and fixed. In seven years that’s the most spent so can’t really argue

How many miles on it, Stibbs?

I thought you had an off!

Sorry to hear about that Steve. Guessing it's the head bearings & brake pads with maybe a disc or two. Never mind, she's good to go now! As you say, in 7 years that's pretty good.

capitano wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:16 pm

Stibbs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 am Got an MOT failure on my burger yesterday. Steering and brakes knackered. Anyway, shit happens. got the bill today, £150 parts, £400 Labour +vat. Still it’s back on the road and fixed. In seven years that’s the most spent so can’t really argue

How many miles on it, Stibbs?

25k now. So in all honesty not too bad considering I use it all year round.

Data wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:02 pm Sorry to hear about that Steve. Guessing it's the head bearings & brake pads with maybe a disc or two. Never mind, she's good to go now! As you say, in 7 years that's pretty good.

As you say Ian, for 7 years and 25k I can’t moan too much.

mottza wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:38 pm I thought you had an off!

Yes Chris I could have worded that a bit better I suppose, lol

Stibbs wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:49 am

capitano wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:16 pm

Stibbs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 am Got an MOT failure on my burger yesterday. Steering and brakes knackered. Anyway, shit happens. got the bill today, £150 parts, £400 Labour +vat. Still it’s back on the road and fixed. In seven years that’s the most spent so can’t really argue

How many miles on it, Stibbs?

25k now. So in all honesty not too bad considering I use it all year round.

You're absolutely correct. Still not nice getting a big bill, though. I empathise completely.

It's surely not the first one, though. Isn't there a BIG service on the 400 at 16k that's around a grand?

Or have I got my wires crossed somewhere? I've been close to pulling the trigger on a 400 myself a few times but they were always just below the big service mileage.

Stibbs will confirm, but I think the service intervals are identical to the earlier B400's that I had. So at 15k miles it's belt & rollers plus new ramp plate guides. All cheap enough when I used to do them. But if the variator or clutch pulley shieves are worn they need renewing which can bump up the price a fair bit. However, you rarely need to renew until big miles unless you ride like a maniac. Variators last for ages. But the 15k service is a big service. I wouldn't think it's a grand though. But then, it's been a while since I was mainstream spannering.

Data wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:32 am I wouldn't think it's a grand though. But then, it's been a while since I was mainstream spannering.

I was basing it on ex MM contributor Ethel Biscuit's experience in around 2010 when his 15k ( not 16k, that was my mistake) service was over £1000 even then.

As I recall, his required valve clearance adjustment needing the cam(s) to be removed to fit new shims, plus the belt, rollers etc.

In the great scheme of things, if you buy a new one, a grand at 15k miles isn't such a big deal.

Buying one with 13-14 k on the clock knowing there's a £1000+ bill to come in a very short time is a bigger deal.

I'm guessing that not every Burgman 400 will require valve adjustment at 15k, but it's a bit of a gamble when buying a used one.

It also explains why, when looking to buy a used 400, the majority have between 12k and 14.5k miles on them.

PS: A bit of perspective to maybe make you feel better. I have mates with Ducati Diavels that need £2k in annual servicing, even if they do a few hundred miles between annual MOTs.