Freedom Storm

[knight2]

Any body know any thing about these
https://freedomscoots.com/storm-s-300/
This guy seems to like them not too surprising as he sells them in Oklahoma City, not much use to us. Just wondered if they are marketed under a different name in Europe. Seems a bit unusual for the yanks to get a scooter we don't. It looks quite nice, whish he had compared it to a 400 Burgman instead of a 200, I think it would have been a better comparison. Though I doubt the Storm would have looked so good.

[MrGrumpy]

My guess is that they are a rebadged Chinese scoot, possibly similar to scoots sold by Lexmoto, or more likely something even cheaper and nastier. There are tons of different scoots made in China by a hole heap of companies you've never heard of. Wasn't Tartarini the guy behind Italjet and the original Italjet Dragster in the old days?? - if he was involved it may be a good sign, or maybe that they ripped off one of his designs!

[Data]

You are pretty much spot on Grumpy! It is an Italian design by Tartarini. Think it's called the Amigo Freedom & Wotton Storm. Looks pretty good and quality looks ok.

[horobags]

defo Chinese, the 'double cheeseburger 500' is due for release in July.

[knight2]

I asummed they would be chinese but if I google Freedom scooters all I get is mobility scooters and I'm not quite there yet .

[capitano]

Any body know any thing about these

Chinese, and a pretty new company all round.

Good plans to be a "proper" scooter brand, but have a long, long way to go, yet.

On the plus side, they know they have a lot to learn, but Asian scooters can get a decent financial foothold in the USA market. The Genuine Buddy proved that.

As far as I know they aren't planning to sell in the EU or UK with ICE scooters.

[knight2]

Thanks for that, I had to google Genuine Scooters, based in Chigago not some where I would associate with scooter

[MrGrumpy]

Apparently Allessandro Tartarini is the son of Leopoldo Tartarini was behind the Italjet company. Alessandro has his own Velocifero scooter company and is apparently currently engaged on achieving speed records on a 200bhp Elec scoot!

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/202 ... c-scooter/

[capitano]

Thanks for that, I had to google Genuine Scooters, based in Chigago not some where I would associate with scooter

Me neither, but nonetheless sell successfully in most States, particularly California.

Seems a bit unusual for the yanks to get a scooter we don't.

It isn't really when you consider that maxi scooters are a niche market in the UK, and non-big-name maxi scooters are a smaller sub-section of that niche. The market is tiny.

Add on that the UK is generally considered a poor risk for startups due to a relatively recent reputation for economic incompetence, and you would wonder if anyone even thinks about bringing new models here, let alone a new brand.

We did have Genuine scooters in the UK. They were branded PGO. They didn't sell enough to make it viable to continue.

[knight2]

It isn't really when you consider that maxi scooters are a niche market in the UK, and non-big-name maxi scooters are a smaller sub-section of that niche. The market is tiny.

Add on that the UK is generally considered a poor risk for startups due to a relatively recent reputation for economic incompetence, and you would wonder if anyone even thinks about bringing new models here, let alone a new brand.

Yeeesss sorry I keep forgetting we're not in Europe any more