Dayglo Knobbers

[StevenM]

good post Bob, I think youv;e just about summed up why we wear whatever we wear for our own personal reasons, but some KNOBBERS are too narrow minded to understand this.

AGREED

[Noggin the Nog]

Every picture tells a story.The photos are from a fund raising event staged by Tarka, well done to him for the funds raised for a deserving cause but it clearly shows the level of disdain that he holds of hi viz and the wearers of them
http://ukgser.smugmug.com/Other/Tarkas- ... 76&k=z5Yhk
G.

[Bluebottle]

That clears things up - so knobbers means tosser
It becomes knobber when you are talking directly to the tosser in question, tosser if they aren't there

By the way your original post did not just say "look like a knobber" but opened with "What is it with these knobbers who ..."

unlike some of the personal insults thrown my way .........I`ve not called anyone a knob/knobber/knobhead personally

Really?
You clearly did, so it is no suprise that your same treatment and tone was reflected straight back at you.

[unchained]

This from Urban Dictionary:

1. Knobbers

Verb: The act of giving or receiving a blow-Job. Can be prefaced with the word, "Mad" As when giving or receiving really good blow-jobs.
~ Usually only used when special, unexpected, or when you gave or received to/from this particular partner for the first time. This differs from knobs in that knobs are a fairly regular thing. Like when you get knobs from your girlfriend every morning before work. Getting knobbers is special.

Is this the meaning that Tarka was after? Not sure how high-viz clothing is going to help with this act unless you are a knobber that performs in the road!

Bob

[capitano]

Hi Vis?

I don't wear it ...but my best mate does!



Seriously I don't wear anything hi-vis, my helmet isn't reflective, my bike is a dark colour and I predominantly wear black (ok white racing gloves and sometimes off-white boots). My van however has a large white frontal area and permanent yellow hi-vis waistcoats draped over the driver's and passenger's seats and an orange one rolled up in the windscreen well. As many people pull out on my van as do on my bike. The only conclusion you can come to is that generally if people haven't seen you they simply haven't looked!

I also think that, like other endlessly debatable subjects (eg full face v open face lids, armour, kevlar jeans etc.) there is some sub-conscious risk compensation in play. ie if you wear full hi-vis and therefore consider (subconsciously) that you have a better chance of being seen, you (again subconsciously) ride with less of an alertness to dangers than if you weren't wearing it. Folk will disagree and that's fine and healthy.

Weirdly though, although I won't wear it myself ** I think it looks quite stylish when incorporated into bike gear like some of the textile jackets with hi-vis panels. It's for other folk to look stylish in though. A mate rides his scooter in a pink pudding basin helmet and high heeled womens' boots (actually bought from a transvestite shop for the size but womens' style anyway) and pulls it off...but I couldn't.

** the exception is the Spidi Flux oversuit, one of which I would own if I had £70 spare and didn't have a perfectly good set of British Army camo goretex waterproofs. http://www.motolegends.com/motorcycle-s ... ellow.html

[tallpaul]

....well I think people that ride with full face helmets are Nancy boys ..... And the same can be said for scooter riders that wear as much protection as they can afford , ....and don't get me started with abs on scooters .....

[nexusmaximus]

McEwan looks very dapper in his hi-viz coat, Ged. ...if anybody wishes to wear hi-viz because it makes them feel safer, then what does it matter to you in the grand scheme of things Tarka? If it's a legitimate question, then ask it, and people on this forum will be happy to spit ball it, but to come on here calling people names, being abusive and generally playing the cock will get you nowhere fast. Personally with the ignorant behaviour that you've shown in this thread, i'd imagine that your attitude to riding will be just as bad as your attitude to addressing people, then i'd be very happy if you avoided our rideouts...and for the record, no, i don't wear hi=viz.

[Waldorf]

I suggest that far from wearing HiViz and thus feeling somehow safer, those who do have thought far more deeply about their vulnerability and have decided it is an additional weapon in the 'Rider's Awareness' arsenal rather than something which takes the place of something else.

[Bluebottle]

Well said

[capitano]

I suggest that far from wearing HiViz and thus feeling somehow safer, those who do have thought far more deeply about their vulnerability and have decided it is an additional weapon in the 'Rider's Awareness' arsenal rather than something which takes the place of something else.

That's a little bit of an inaccurate assumption Mike. For example if they had thought about it just as deeply as someone who understands how subconscious risk compensation works, they may well have come to the conclusion that it's actually more dangerous to fool your subconscious mind (ie not the bit that feels safer but the bit that works in the background) into considering yourself less vulnerable. They might conclude that this subconscious transferring responsibility onto others to see them might cause them to a)take more risks, and b) observe less. Therefore they might ditch the hi-vis and be safer.

I'm not saying who is wrong or right. We could go round the houses for ever with no conclusive proof but you can't reasonably assume that those who do have thought about it more than those who don't.