These bike tyres are as good as run flats!

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These bike tyres are as good as run flats!

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Coming home today, around half way through my commute of 13 miles, i noticed a huge difference in handling of the bike and immediately knew something was wrong. It didn't want to lean sideways at all, as if i had a car tyre instead of bike tyre. I was navigating in between very heavy traffic, using the narrowest side gaps nearside buses, so i thought to myself, damn, i got a puncture again :(

Oh well, i already had one on my rear tyre a few weeks after buying the tyre new, which i plugged myself and been using ever since, so all i'd need to do was to find a petrol station, pump it up, limp back home and plug it again...

The worrying thing was that the bike became so unstable that it was as if i was doing a skid training on ice... The rear had a mind of its own, going left, right all over the place, all the meanwhile i was still filtering through :shock:

I had to drop around 30mph and tackle any corner at walking speed until i reached a petrol station which i discovered charges 50p for a fucking air pump!!! It's been some time since i used one of those as i have my own electric pump at my car now, so i was shocked to see how much those machines become since i used them last time. Even 20p used to be too much for something that should be free in my opinion, as those petrol stations earn enough from selling the damn petrol in the first place, not to mention other bits and bobs in their shop...

Anyways, parked up, paid, pressed flat tyre button, and off i went... waited for the pump for a while, but the pressure was not increasing :shock: so i turned the tyre a bit and found the puncture...

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It was a huge cut and not a screw or nail hole as i first suspected. It's as thick as my thumb as you can see, and whatever air was pumped in came out from there. I held my thumb over it for a while as the pump continued to make sure there was nothing wrong with the air pump but there was no chance of holding air in anymore with that gaping hole...

At that point, i had two options...

1- call the AA and wait for god knows how long (1-2 hours) during rush hour traffic only to discover they sent a guy who was going to come with a standard puncture repair kit which wasn't going to help and then he'd call back and get a vehicle sent for recovery, wait another hour or so for the recovery truck to arrive, only to discover that it wasn't suitable for bikes (although i'd have specifically informed the AA guy to ask for a bike recovery truck) so another bike recovery truck would be called (another 1+ hour) and get recovered back home.
2- try limping back home on a completely flat tyre.

There was only about 5 miles remaining and i really didn't fancy a wait of 3-4 hours for a bloody recovery truck, especially after having had a very tiring sunday with home improvements and about 5 hours sleep. All i wanted was to get back home and seeing the condition of the tyre, i wasn't expecting it to be repaired anyway, so i didn't really care about damaging the internals of the tyre.

So i took option 2...

Got back home in one piece, but it was almost as scary as last year's snow/ice ride i had during winter. I felt like i had no control of the rear and the corners were very scary to tackle.

But on the plus side, i got to enjoy the scenery on my commute for the first time in ages as i was trundling along at around 30mph :)

The bike struggled uphill and even straight it was obvious that the engine was getting stressed. It must have been pulling much harder with added drag due to flat...

The radiator cooling fan kicked off many times due to that, and going uphill on shooters hill was a chore.

But i made it in the end, parked up and got home. My front tyre was going to need changing pretty soon, but rear had plenty of life in it, however now i'll need to get them both changed. And next time there's heavy traffic, i'll think twice before venturing in the small gaps on the very left/right sides of the road. All of the junk seem to collect on the corners.

I wonder how much the set will cost to replace :(

Looking back at my service notes, the rear was changed at 23200 miles. The front wasn't changed since i bought it. I bought it at 17200 miles and it's currently on 28000 so front DEFINITELY needed changing anyway, but i think rear could have done with another 2-3k...
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Pleased you made it home fella :) , been in the same situation about six weeks ago, my rear tyre was flat and I was in the middle of nowhere. Got some strange looks riding along at 20 mph with my hazards on :lol:

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Is there a chance you will damage the wheel by doing that?

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i reached a petrol station which i discovered charges 50p for a fucking air pump!!! It's been some time since i used one of those as i have my own electric pump at my car now, so i was shocked to see how much those machines become since i used them last time. Even 20p used to be too much
Yeah, bastards.
The BP on Old Kent Road is 50p, but the Tesco north a little is only 20p!

Glad you made it safe home.

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rtfm wrote:Is there a chance you will damage the wheel by doing that?
There is i suppose, but i wasn't running on the rim as i would have felt it. It still had some kind of cushioning effect going over bumps which i think was down to the hard plastic of the tyre compound itself. I think the bike tyre walls are harder than car tyre walls which results in this difference between the two.


Any ideas if a bottle of emergency tyre puncture repair foam would help seal the leak so that i can ride back to the workshop safe?
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No idea sorry, nor about mobile tyre people.

Good thing if you can't go in this morning, traffic is busy despite leaving way earlier than i normally do (yesterday at 0830-0900 was bad), and there was a right counter in a black range rover cutting up bicycles, motorcycles and scooter - must of been frustrated and didn't like us going faster than him tosser.gif

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I've used a can of that tyre sealent stuff (Cheapo Wilko one) and it did the job and got me (slowly) to a garage, but I think with a puncture like you had that might of been too big a hole to plug with it

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I remember once - I think it was on the Atlantic, but with a B.stone radial on the front - I was riding home from work (along high speed dual carriageways etc) that I felt that the scoot was handling even weirder than usual. When I got back home I checked the tyre and the pressure was 0 !!!! There again, those Bstone TH01s were slightly odd tyres in some ways. It was brand new as well, but the valve had failed.

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When i commuted to work i always carried a can of Puncture seal with me,i only had to use it once, but it got me home. In those days tyres had inner tubes and it would take me ages to squeeze out the sealant before i repaired the tube. Now adays i always carry a repair outfit with those little gas canisters for re-inflating the tyre, and plugs to stop the leak, as well as my first aid kit. :)

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Post by Data »

Halfbusa, nasty situation. Been there myself on a big bike and nearly died as a result. I now always have this stuff in my tyres and it really works! Saved me many time in the last 12 years and no new tyres needed. We used it in the Military too and it saves lives everyday, it's the one Royal Mail puts in every vehicle they own. Put it in, and leave it in there. It lengthens tyre life and make a permenant repair if you get a puncture. No need to have an 'inferior' tyre patch or plug put in. No speed restriction on it either. Note: usual rules apply concerning where the puncture is on the tyre. If it's sidewall or on the shoulder, it must be replaced.

Watch this video to see how effective it is when gunshots are fired into the tyres.

http://www.ultrasealgb.co.uk/site/index ... &PAGE_id=5

Glad you are ok.
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