Accident

[gn2]

I've made shedloads of mistakes and had quite a few collisions myself...
Older and wiser now.

[Drago]

I would also say that the rider could of avoided this.

When the Micra turns off you can see the views obscured. The Merc appears once he's began to accelerate past the Micra, which is also now turning off - Merc probably hasn't seen the rider yet. Also you'll notice theres a gap on both sides of the road and theres cars queing up from the side street. I'd be thinking ''Will a car pull out from the side street?'' I would of passed the Micra slowly and be ready to stop. The rider passes the micra and the merc is also pulling out - by now I would be on the brakes and stopped. The rider didn't react very quickly, his speedo doesn't seem to drop until it's to late.

Merc is also at fault, should of stopped the moment the Tmax came around the Micra. Also shouldn't of just driven off.
So in conclusion the Merc driver and the rider need to be more observant. This incident could of been avoided by both parties. Still i'm not taking sides, the Merc driver really should of stopped and not just drive off!

This is a good video on lack of observation and anticipation (from both parties). In my opion of course.

[Bluebottle]

Everybody, including me (3rd post in the thread) agrees that the rider could have handled the situation a lot better and saved himself the grief, quote " I wouldn't have gone for that gap...."

There is no argument except for GN2 arguing with himself again.

But, if I was handing out the kickings, the guy that didn't have the right of way has to be top of the list - particularly as a biker will die this week because a twat pulls across his right of way, possibly one of us.

[halfabusa]

Thinking back, i remember having my first accident very similar to this. In fact it was exactly at this point: http://goo.gl/maps/SwkDp

Back in 2002 when i had my first ever 2 wheeler, a gilera vx125, i was coming out of sainsbury's and the traffic was stationary, and i was moving on the 2nd lane past the stopped traffic. I was just passing the point where the petrol station exit was where i noticed a gap was open and a car was coming out of the petrol station! i noticed it a bit late and went 3/4 way down. Not completely dropped the bike and no harm done but it was an eye opener and quite scary.

It's the easiest accident for a learner rider...

[gn2]

But, if I was handing out the kickings, the guy that didn't have the right of way has to be top of the list

PTW riders have to wake up and realise that it makes no odds whether they have right of way or not.
In the event of someone failing to cede right of way the consequences of catastrophe are far higher than for other road users.
This is why riders need to learn to ride more intelligently, because it is them who are most at risk.
If you ride like a twat (like Mr Tmax did on this occasion) its no good blaming everyone else.
And that's the argument right there.

[Mr Angry]

It's the sort of thing that happens when filtering past stationery traffic when there is a junction on the left and someone lets them out. Hopefully he'll learn not to pass at junctions.

[pikey]

I agree no good moaning about right of way

[Bluebottle]

tell it like it is.……If you ride like a twat (like Mr Tmax did on this occasion) its no good blaming everyone else.
And that's the argument right there.

Ok, let's tell it like it is.

You are not in a position to lecture anyone on what defensive riding is

What''s behind is only important when changing lane.

Outrageously poor observation skills and situational awareness

Proximity of a vehicle behind should not require a variation in distance to the vehicle in front.

poor defensive riding

Do all your same comments apply? "Needs to learn" "rides like a twat" Etc

[mottza]

Here we go...

[Bluebottle]

Sorry Mottza, I'll practice what i preach and concentrate on my own riding instead