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Post by j.newton1 »

I have been thinking of fitting a upgraded variator to my yamaha cygnus x. Do they make a improvement over standard ones. Any advice on the best make to buy. Thank you in advance for any help. JOHN

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Depends what you mean by "improvement"?

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Post by pikey »

are you looking for top end or take off and acceleration if its just take off /acceleration just try lighter rollers in its low powered scoot doubt you will improve top end

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I had a cygnus x, and it's a great little scooter for what it is, but it only makes 10 or 11 hp. I found it was great for around town but when it comes to dual carriage ways you're screwing the arse off it to get 60mph :x
I hope you can make an improvement on the speed / acceleration though mate.

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A after-market variator should give you improved acceleration, especially in mid range. When I had a Malossi variator on the TMax it made it quite a weapon round town! New variators normally allow the engine to rev higher. You shouldn't expect one to do anything for your top speed though.

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The problem with it being for a low powered 125 is that any gains from variator fiddling would be minimal.
If you want to see any significant improvement you need more cubes.

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X2

You can improve acceleration simply by putting in lighter rollers...Dr Pulley sliders make a massive difference...but nothing beats higher displacement.
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You need a 15hp 125. Or pass your test and get something much bigger.
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I personally think theres little you can really do to improve it
- I presume you mean by acceleration/top speed?

'Budget' 125 with's less than 12hp will only be capable of 60mph.

More expensive 125 with 12-15hp will do 65/70mph, but at those prices you can
get 180-300cc's for a few hundred £ more which'll have even better acceleration and
top speeds any way.

The older 125 2 strokes are quite quick, but now most are getting on a bit, drink more fuel
than 4 strokes and are fetching quite a bit of money.

Personally i'd accept the 125 can only do what it can do, or get a bigger cc scooter, but even
then you don't need to go really big a 180-300 will be more than adequate. I passed my test and went
from a SYM megalo 125 with 9.5hp to my SYM GTS 250i with 23hp.
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Lighter than stock Dr Pulley rollers, since they have become more readily available they have made upgrading to a different variator rather pointless.
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