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Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:32 pm
by StephenC
Story in the Telegraph.
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Shame on them for taking the results of such a study seriously.
Why?
Because they are talking about 2-strokes.

How many 2-strokes are actually used in London nowadays? The only ones I ever come across are very old Vespas puttering about. I'd estimate that about 98% of scoots on the commute are modern 4 bangers.
And to think that this is in the "science" section too. Grrr! Angry.

Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:45 pm
by Funkycowie
It is talking about 'Europe' then the 'World' and the environmental impacts where they are more dominant. But I share your frustration that the opening is shit reporting because it makes a such a sweeping statement, the title should say 2 stroke scooters worse than HGV's for emissions.
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:03 pm
by StephenC
Funkycowie wrote:It is talking about 'Europe' then the 'World' and the environmental impacts where they are more dominant. But I share your frustration that the opening is shit reporting because it makes a such a sweeping statement, the title should say 2 stroke scooters worse than HGV's for emissions.
It's a shame but I was chatting to a Telegraph journalist one evening last week. If it was this week I could have told her to put her colleague straight.

Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:25 pm
by pikey
Italy have banned pre Cat 2 strokes from most city centers has to be euro 1 min spec
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:50 pm
by StephenC
Funkycowie wrote:the title should say 2 stroke scooters worse than HGV's for emissions.
And even then it should say "old" 2-strokes. You can get Speedfight 3's but they are Euro3 compliant.
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:00 pm
by Deleted User 796
A moronic shit stain of an article. Next week we might get an article about how fords pollute more than tanks. Of course they'll be talking about the model t ford......
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:42 pm
by Black Wing
They never let the facts get in the way of a good story!
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:53 pm
by wozza
What a truly awful sensationalist article... I wonder where they conducted this research Phnom Penh? Well they certainly wouldn't find many 2 strokes on our streets.
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 10:46 am
by spaceprobe
This was the argument that Westminster Council used to introduce motorcycle parking charges. Extreme right wing Council and Telegraph go together hand in hand.
Re: Scooters worse than HGVs for emissions
Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 11:33 am
by wozza
spaceprobe wrote:This was the argument that Westminster Council used to introduce motorcycle parking charges. Extreme right wing Council and Telegraph go together hand in hand.
Excuse me, but please don't start bringing silly politics into the issue of scooters. It's poison, so lets stay away from left and wing politics thanks.